Disable PCM re-flashes :)
Originally Posted by mgp32
I'm worrying quite a bit. I just dont know what to do . I will do all the maintenece myself but I would like to take it in to get checkups every year or so since I have a warranty...and if they flash Im screwed. I dont know what to do!
Seriously - it is not an issue - either do as some others suggest ( tell them not to mess with it) or install a defeat mechanism as explained above.
There are thousands of tuned F150's runnin' around, including me - it's not a show-stopper.
MGD
I think I posted this before, but here goes again...lol
I just got my Troyer tuned Xcal 2 last month and a neat little thing that was included with the Xcal package was a "cap" thingy that fits over the OBD II port, RED as can be, and says.. "DO NOT REFLASH - CONSULT OWNER"...
I have the thing on there and if my dealer ever DOES "consult" me I'll tell them I just want to know what the hell exactly are they changing.. I'LL decide if if it's something I need changed.. And judging from what TP's tunes have done for my truck I believe I'll tell 'em, "no thanks.."
I think I may have been fortunate though in the truck / pcm version that I got.. never been any problems, no recalls, never been flashed in several services...
Let's all have mulitple
now!!
I just got my Troyer tuned Xcal 2 last month and a neat little thing that was included with the Xcal package was a "cap" thingy that fits over the OBD II port, RED as can be, and says.. "DO NOT REFLASH - CONSULT OWNER"...
I have the thing on there and if my dealer ever DOES "consult" me I'll tell them I just want to know what the hell exactly are they changing.. I'LL decide if if it's something I need changed.. And judging from what TP's tunes have done for my truck I believe I'll tell 'em, "no thanks.."
I think I may have been fortunate though in the truck / pcm version that I got.. never been any problems, no recalls, never been flashed in several services...
Let's all have mulitple
now!!
Originally Posted by TexEdition
I think I posted this before, but here goes again...lol
I just got my Troyer tuned Xcal 2 last month and a neat little thing that was included with the Xcal package was a "cap" thingy that fits over the OBD II port, RED as can be, and says.. "DO NOT REFLASH - CONSULT OWNER"...
I have the thing on there and if my dealer ever DOES "consult" me I'll tell them I just want to know what the hell exactly are they changing.. I'LL decide if if it's something I need changed.. And judging from what TP's tunes have done for my truck I believe I'll tell 'em, "no thanks.."
I think I may have been fortunate though in the truck / pcm version that I got.. never been any problems, no recalls, never been flashed in several services...
Let's all have mulitple
now!!
I just got my Troyer tuned Xcal 2 last month and a neat little thing that was included with the Xcal package was a "cap" thingy that fits over the OBD II port, RED as can be, and says.. "DO NOT REFLASH - CONSULT OWNER"...
I have the thing on there and if my dealer ever DOES "consult" me I'll tell them I just want to know what the hell exactly are they changing.. I'LL decide if if it's something I need changed.. And judging from what TP's tunes have done for my truck I believe I'll tell 'em, "no thanks.."
I think I may have been fortunate though in the truck / pcm version that I got.. never been any problems, no recalls, never been flashed in several services...
Let's all have mulitple
now!!The thing is that my dealer specificly said that they don't like tuners...they dont mind intakes but NO tuners. So if I went in there with something like that Im sure they would know
Naww, you'd return to the stock program before going in to the dealer no matter what... no biggie..
And if they ask about the little cap on the port, or some folks just put a piece of tape over the port that says the same thing.. just say you want to know exactly why they need to flash, what they intend to change by doing so..
My thinking is that unless they're gonna program something to keep you from grenading the crankshaft or otherwise settin' the truck afire then you're better off with your custom tunes.. so just tell 'em, "no thanks".. no need to explain why... "I like how it runs now, take your diddlin' fingers outta my OBD port, thank ya very much.."
Along those lines...
And if they ask about the little cap on the port, or some folks just put a piece of tape over the port that says the same thing.. just say you want to know exactly why they need to flash, what they intend to change by doing so..
My thinking is that unless they're gonna program something to keep you from grenading the crankshaft or otherwise settin' the truck afire then you're better off with your custom tunes.. so just tell 'em, "no thanks".. no need to explain why... "I like how it runs now, take your diddlin' fingers outta my OBD port, thank ya very much.."
Along those lines...
Originally Posted by TexEdition
Naww, you'd return to the stock program before going in to the dealer no matter what... no biggie..
And if they ask about the little cap on the port, or some folks just put a piece of tape over the port that says the same thing.. just say you want to know exactly why they need to flash, what they intend to change by doing so..
My thinking is that unless they're gonna program something to keep you from grenading the crankshaft or otherwise settin' the truck afire then you're better off with your custom tunes.. so just tell 'em, "no thanks".. no need to explain why... "I like how it runs now, take your diddlin' fingers outta my OBD port, thank ya very much.."
Along those lines...

And if they ask about the little cap on the port, or some folks just put a piece of tape over the port that says the same thing.. just say you want to know exactly why they need to flash, what they intend to change by doing so..
My thinking is that unless they're gonna program something to keep you from grenading the crankshaft or otherwise settin' the truck afire then you're better off with your custom tunes.. so just tell 'em, "no thanks".. no need to explain why... "I like how it runs now, take your diddlin' fingers outta my OBD port, thank ya very much.."
Along those lines...

Or - find another more amenable dealer ....
So riddle me this.
Your stock PCM code/tune is stored in the Xcal2, no? Why is it not possible to just put your stock tune back into the truck off your Xcal2 if the dealer did happen to reflash the truck.
What am I missing here?
Your stock PCM code/tune is stored in the Xcal2, no? Why is it not possible to just put your stock tune back into the truck off your Xcal2 if the dealer did happen to reflash the truck.
What am I missing here?
Originally Posted by Bartak1
So riddle me this.
Your stock PCM code/tune is stored in the Xcal2, no? Why is it not possible to just put your stock tune back into the truck off your Xcal2 if the dealer did happen to reflash the truck.
What am I missing here?
Your stock PCM code/tune is stored in the Xcal2, no? Why is it not possible to just put your stock tune back into the truck off your Xcal2 if the dealer did happen to reflash the truck.
What am I missing here?
TEJF4P2=TEJF4P2
TEJF4P5=TEJF4P5
Originally Posted by 2005lariatky
I was told the other day by a Ford Mechanic and a Ford Service Manager that they can tell if you ever have had a tuner or not. I dont know if they were trying to scare me or what?
Originally Posted by 2005lariatky
I was told the other day by a Ford Mechanic and a Ford Service Manager that they can tell if you ever have had a tuner or not. I dont know if they were trying to scare me or what?
Originally Posted by i.ride.suzuki
Sounds like your dealer is your wife. 



