I understand your pain. I have been there and learned the hard way myself. What i meant about both sides is just he wasn't there, and shop talk is shop talk. It just sucks that driving all that way down there and getting your truck up there, and having it pulled back down due to something you could of prevented blows. I think you are sincere about your dilema and it was embarasing to reveal, but it is knowledge that needs to be shared. Good luck, and i hope you get it worked out...

 

You're right. I shouldn't jump to conclusions and I applogize for that. I'd like to know what some of these issues with the truck are, though. Did mud and water get past your air filter and into the throttle body? If it did, then the MAF would get messed up and the truck would run like crap which you said it doesn't. If not, then there is no internal damage to the engine. The piston rings are fine. Did you go through water deeper than say 20" ? If not, then water didn't get into your differentials and theres no need to drain the fluids. Even if a little did, a fluid change will make it good as new. The trany breather is even higher than the diff breathers, so that's a non-issue as well. Other than it looking dirty, there should be no difference between your truck and everyone elses.

 

No harm, no foul... I would like to know more as well. I'm curious if it swallowed some water as well, if there is a piston problem. I know from experience that if mud is left on the input/output shaft seal area, it can cause leaks because it just grinds the seals. Same way with the axle seals and brakes. It can happen on all vehicles. I would buy a beater to romp on, because 4-wheeling is a blast!

 

Yes, but if mud got into the axle seals and is going to cause premature seal failure somewhere down the road, I don't understand what that has to do with him refusing to dyno the truck?

 

Man sorry to hear that! Wish you the best

 

Maybe there was noises coming from the engine that he didn't want to take a chance on blowing it up or damaging it any further. He runs these trucks on the dyno wide open a few times.

 

I wasn't there but that's not going to stop me from saying I think they're way out of line. I do that kinda driving 4-6 times a summer (6 reps each minimum) and haven't had any problems aside from a dirty truck. If you cant drive a truck like that; we might as well all sell our rides and buy Hondas.

At least the boy appears to wash his truck after a trip like this; I don't even do that.

My recommendation.....Drive that bad boy onto the beach and see if you can get bigger splashes.

 

Here are some specifics...keeping in mind I am no mechanic...


When you removed the air filter the air box had mud on the inside, down near the hole to the intake. I assume some mud/water got in there...looked like it.

The dipstick on the tranny fluid had some dirt on it. I'm assuming that is why they were concerned about the tranny.

I have since removed the intake and have washed it out completely.

Thanks for the support guys. I'm still gonna off-road, I'm just ticked that I may have ruined the truck.

 

I would like to know more specifics as to the damage that was being done. I don't understand why it would keep it from being dynoed. You are taking a certain amount of risk when you crank up any engine, let alone rev it.

 

My assumption was due to the tranny dirt. He said he has to red-line it to test it and given what he saw it may be more than the truck could handle.

 

Was the dirt on the clean side of the air filter/air box? Was the dirt on the dipstick handle or the stick itself?

 

1. No it was in the back behind the filter.

2. On the bottom of the dipstick.

Looking to see if someone today does tranny flushes

uh oh...looks like Jiffy Lube...

 

Ouch! I see why now that he didn't dyno it. I looked at your pics in your gallerie, it sure is a nice looking truck.

 

I just got back home from Mikes shop this morning and will only add a few things so as not to take away from what Mike will surely respond to.
We had Vaders truck strapped on the dyno and hooked up ready to make the first pull. With the excessive dirt and water stains under the hood, and all the red clay residue all over the place, even staining the hood liner pad, we decided to pull the MAF and check a few things out. There had been water inside the MAF receptacle and there was mud residue in and on the MAF itself. We cleaned that and then started checking over the rest of the truck. It still had a lot of dirt on and above the rear differencal which would have no doubt fallen into the dyno drum during the pull.
Then after looking around a little more throughly in the engine compartment, Neil pulled the transmission dip stick only to find that the tube been packed full of mud. The bottom end of the dipstick actually had many large dirt particles on it when we removed it.
That is when it was decided that we were not going to dyno the truck as there could have been damage from the falling dirt to the dyno equipment, and we felt that we should not take the truck to the rev limiter with the dirt in the transmission pan.
Imagine if it would have been your equipment and vehicle...
Vader I enjoyed meeting you and hope that we can eventually meet again under better circumstances. You really do have a beautiful truck..:o

 

Marc,

I just want to make it clear I don't fault Troyer for what they did or did not do.

This should not reflect poorly on them.