fast54triton aka YoungF150Lover
, chill! How many of these guys on this board you think are telling 100% of the truth? There is always a stretch of the imagination (and wallets).

I went back to some of your posts and read them. You articulate your posts well and far exceed the imagination of most 14yr. olds.

You seem to enjoy life (especially in your excitable posts...that's some funny $tuff!). I wish I had your "harmless" imagination at 14. My imagination usually got me in trouble one way or another...it's part of growing up (there are no saints on this board).

Give it a rest, you've got 2 more years to get that beloved F150. With as much mental energy you put into your posts, you will go a long way in the "working" life.

G'Luck!
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[This message has been edited by murfster (edited 05-16-2001).]

 

I've heard of buyer beware but never seller beware!

IMO, Mike, you should tell them that you shipped murchandise to someone who gave you a valid credit card number and address and that the sale is final.

I suppose daddy could charge junior with credit card theft and fraud to get the credit card company to remove the charge from his card!

Ian

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Mike,

The superchip deal with my dad has been discussed many times. I didnt steal it from him or anything. Nothing at all like that, dont make me sound like a bad kid.

BTW, I just turned 15 anyways. Permit in 1 month\.

And I dont think it was right to post that in here Mike. I was going to do it myself.

[This message has been edited by YoungF150Lover (edited 05-16-2001).]

 

YoungF150Lover,

Shame on you. I am sure your father will deal with you. Enough chastising. I applaud your courage to own up to your mistake. Good for you on that. Having said that you will now suffer all and any wrath accorded you by the involved parties. Personally I think your father and Mike will get their pound of flesh. Now weather you continue to post is up to you.

Mike,

This one is priceless. Tough one to call eh? Wait a week and if you are laughing about it you will know what to do.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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By the way,

Have I harmed anyone here in any way? I dont lie about the races, lots of em were with my brother who visits here frequently.

 

Shame on me for what? I always posted on here with the highest mentality.

And laugh at this? Come on

 

YoungF150Lover,

I didn't think I would have to go into this but here goes. Were you the owner of the trucks? Did you order a chip using your father's credit card? Did you have his permission to do so? Did he know you were doing it? Careful now, answer these questions truthfully and I will answer your query.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

 

Hey Fast (If you don't mind still being called that)...

Life is full of hard knocks! This is minor unless you're in trouble with your father, of course. But even that will be worked out and forgotten before you know it. Everybody makes mistakes and does things in life they wish dearly they could take back. I know, I've had more than my share! Some of the best lesson anyone learns in life are often the most painfull. It's what you do with that lesson that can make you a better person or not. At your age facing some humiliation may seem like the end of the world but I assure you, my friend, it is not..."we" will forget all about this as we begin to focus back on those things that "we" believe are important to us. Hope you stick around to tell us your stories of your first "legal" driving experiences. Some of us "old farts" really get off on hearing the perceptions and ideas of new-comers to the driving world. Hang in there dude!

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Don't take this too hard, but consider this. You probably knew what you were doing was wrong (representing yourself as someone you were not, using a credit card that was not yours and without permission). You got caught and now you will have to pay the consequences, whatever they may be. You entered into a business agreement (contract) under false pretenses affecting both Mike's business and your father. This is one of life's lessons learned the hard way. Hopefully you have learned from it and realize that there are consequences for all actions in life.

In the meantime, suck it up, take your medicine and go on in life a wiser "14" or "15" year old (most of us have learned lessons in a similar way at one time or another).

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Thanks guys

I wont be posting here anymore. I mean, I wish Mike hadnt done that, when I could have said somethign. Just his nature I guess.

The full story about the chip isnt known by you guys, so thats why Im not attacking back, like at JMC.

 

Hi Fast (& everyone else),

Fast, I want to be clear with you about this, to set the record straight with you. I do *not* want to see you "banned" from this site, we have not asked the Webmaster for any thing like that, nor would we, that is not at all appropriate. As long as you respect & obey the policies of F-150 Online, you should be fine in that aspect, so don't think that we want you off the this site, or anything like that!

You have impressed any number of people here over the past couple of years Fast, as another poster mentioned, with creativity & posts that do not appear to come from a 12-14 year old, which are the ages you have been since you first started posting here 2-3 years ago. What I mean is, you've shown us a lot of maturity & humor for someone of your very young age, and many of us have thoroughly enjoyed your posts here. That is obvious from some of the responses in this very thread, and we're obviously not the only people who have been impressed by you in some way. That speaks very highly of you, you have in fact "fit in" here very well, and we want you to *continue* to enjoy all the friends you have at this site.

None of us want to see your passion or enthusiasm for life diminished by this, least of all we here at Performance, please remember that.

And yes, I can only imagine what it must be like to have a father in law enforcement, children of law enforcement officials are routinely teased, etc. in school, and unfortunately, that is a sad fact of life. But if you stop and think about it for a minute, just about *everybody* gets teased in school for one thing or another, kids are *brutal* in their teasing of others all during the school ages (1st grade thru at least high school), and will tease and make fun of anyone who is different from them or who they feel doesn't quite "fit it", etc. You are not alone in that regard. You need to remember one thing: that comes from immaturity; the people doing the teasing are actually so afraid that they'll be teased themselves over something, that they will tease others over the very same things they themselves fear others will see in them. It can be vicious, and is sometimes referred to as a form of "peer pressure". Trust me, ignore all that, always be yourself no matter what, never let anybody like that influence you in any way; people of good character will respect you for it, and *want* to be your friend, and a *real* friend at that.

Don't *ever* feel that your life is not fun, or not worthwhile in any way, because my young friend, you have got the world by the short hairs right now, so to speak. You have no bills like we "adults" do, you don't have to generate the vast sums of money it takes to house, feed, cloth & educate you until you come of age and can seek gainful employment and start supporting yourself. Right now is one of the very best times of your life, with very few responsibilities like your father and the rest of us older guys & gals have, and trust me, it's only going to get *better* for you in the future. That's right, *better*!

You have a father who loves you dearly, and a *lot* of friends here on F-150 Online, who I'm sure can and will continue to be your friend; once this thing blows over, and it will blow over, I'd like to include myself as one of your friends. The only reason I exposed this here was simply so that this situation would no longer be misrepresented as a warranty issue, plain and simple, as that was in no way fair to us or to the product, but more importantly, to others who may want to enjoy it.

Believe it or not Fast, we *want* you to stay right here and continue to enjoy this site for many years to come, and we also want you to be able to continue to enjoy the many people who have come to think quite highly of you here, young man.

I think it was a simple issue of you wanting something so badly, and wanting to, as you yourself said, "fit in", and that led you to do something you shouldn't have, it's as simple as that. It's an important matter to us, but it's *not* something that you should start thinking negatively about your life over, so please try to remember that, Fast, no matter what.

You aren't the only young man to make a mistake, not by a long shot. I hope that someday maybe we'll be able to sit down together over a cup of coffee or a beer (when you're of age! ) and share a good laugh over this, and some even better laughs over some of my own exploits, back when I was a young man. (and how I long for those days!)

Dad's in law enforcement tend to be pretty tough on their kids when they get out of line, and it's only natural, as your father holds a position of tremendous responsibility, far above and beyond anything he's paid enough for or that you could understand or appreciate at this young age, and if you learn just 1 thing from this, I hope it will be to always love and respect your father (all your family members, of course) and never do anything that could involve or humiliate him. He loves you more than he can ever express in words, and he works hard everyday to provide for you.

And by the way, we kinda like you, too.

You've admitted what you've done, you're going to learn an important lesson from this (like how much doing something like this can cost you!), and then get on with your life. What you did was wrong, but it's not the end of the world, and you have a *fantastic* life ahead of you.

I would suggest having a nice heart-to-heart discussion with your father over this, and clear the air, so to speak, between you, and then put this behind you as a lesson learned.

I think if you do that, you'll be much happier, and we'll all be happy to have you here, Fast.

So don't be too discouraged, you'll get past this, and remember that you still have many friends here, ok?

If there ever comes a time when you feel that things just aren't right, or just aren't working out for some reason, or you ever just need to talk to somebody, you can call me personally *anytime*, Fast, and even if it's after hours, you just leave me a voicemail & I'll get back to you ASAP. I mean that, with all my heart. I don't want to see you discouraged and/or to lose your enthusiasm over this, you have a *wonderful* life ahead of you, and every single moment is so very precious. Remember that.

I wish you well, as do all your friends here,

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[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 05-16-2001).]

 

Hi Ian,

Yes, we could do that, but I'll tell you why we're not........plain and simple, I'm not without sin, and I don't want to see anyone punished beyond what is actually needed.

You're absolutely right, many companies would do exactly that, tell the father tough beans, that if they cannot control their child, they have to pay the price, and we would be well within our rights to do so. I just don't feel that is appropriate in this instance, because his father is a law enforcement officer, mf whom don't make much money, and I can sympathize with this kind of situation. Can you imagine how hard it must have been for his father? Much harder than it is on us. If this had been a $1000 product instead of a coupla hundred dollars, I might feel differently I suppose, but all we're really interested in here is that he learns from his mistake, in the hopes that this is a completely isolated event.

Kids are kids, and they make mistakes, such is life. All we're really concerned with is him knowing that he's been caught, that everyone knows teh reality of the situation, and ultimately, that he's learning his lesson; and that is (hopefully) most likely going to end up being done by his father, who is sending us a letter about this, and we'll see what he has to say in writing.

My wife & I have devoted our lives to helping those less fortunate, and if I'm really committed to doing that, I have to be willing to "turn the other cheek", so to speak, as long as the situation permits. In all honesty, my feelings on this are going to depend in large part on what his father has to say in writing, and we'll find that out when that letter arrives.

Thanks for your response, Ian, we appreciate it.

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Performance Products, Inc.
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how many credit card bills did dad get before he realized?

 

I don't think a kid ordered this at all. He probally realized that that was his only shot at returning this item. If "his" father were really a police officer her would have realized mike had done no wrong in selling the chip and his "son" never should have used the credit card w/o permission. He should have EATEN the loss not superchips. It is like the parents who blame the store for buying records with explicit lyrics, when if properly parented the kid would not buy what their parents would not approve of.


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Hi Mike and Fast54Triton;

My first post was a bit harsh in retrospect. It was a reaction to the statement that the father was sending a letter (which sounded a bit unreasonable and litigious).

We've all done things that seemed like the end of the world at the time and we laugh about years later. Perhaps we should start a thread on "Stupid things we did with cars in our teens". Anyone?

I read an article in Road and Track a few years ago written by Innes Ireland (ex F1 driver). Innes ordered his father a car immediately after WWII and of course didn't tell his father about it.

It was about an 18 month delivery period at the time and he couldn't bring himself to tell his father about it until the dealership called to say the car was in and could be picked up! Then he had to come clean.

Maybe we'll see an article in a magazine by Fast54Triton one day. He certainly writes well for his age. Perhaps his father should review his posts. He might get a better appreciation for his son.

Ian



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