Mike,
So the SuperChip doesn't affect the upshift point?

Would there be any improvement in time-to-speed if the transmission DID allow the engine to rev to redline at wot b4 upshifting?

I suppose I could just shift it manually to get those last 7-800 rpm.

 

Mike Troyer:
Thanks for your Friday reply.

Could the ‘fall-back’ mode (switch position 1) be reasonably de-tuned for high mileage and/or lower torque at part throttle so as not to spin the tires on snow & ice?

So what's the story on the Micro Tuner? What can it do? Would it be a better alternative than the Flip-Chip? When is it due for production? I'm not THAT anxious to get more performance, and I would like to be involved in learning the programming.

As to getting Michigan Lightning owners together, there are several on this board and I met others yesterday. There is a Ford club meet at Milan Dragway (south of Ann Arbor) this Thursday evening (July 15th). I understand 2 stock Lightnings hit 14.0 at their meet last month. I'll see who I can round up.

 

Dear PGMR,

It depends on the application, and in the case of the late-model F-150, yes it is raised. This has gotten twisted and misunderstood in this thread, from the discussions regarding Wynjammer's *CUSTOM* application, which cannot be compared to any others in any way, shape, or form.

The WOT upshift points are set to maximize the vehicle's ability to gain velocity, or to accelerate, in other words. If the power is already falling off at the fatory upshift point, then we do *not* push them any faster, as all you're doing is spinning the engine for no reason.

But in the vast majority of these vehicles, the WOT upshift point is raised, to the point at which it provides best acceleration. So you're point about there being potentially better performance/acceleration by winding the engine to higher rpm's prior to upshifting is correct, there is a substantial improvement in most of them, and that includes almost all '97 & up automatic-equipped F-150's.



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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com

 

Dear DHFerguson,

The Micro Tuner for Fords is not yet in production, it is stil in the design phase, so no information is available for release. It will not be released until it is needed due to a Ford design change in the ECU, which we know is going to eventually happen, perhaps as soon as the 2000 model year, but we don't know yet, and won't, until the change is actually made. As long as the Ford ECU can be reprogrammed via the edge connector, the standard Superchip will be considerably cheaper than the Micro Tuner.

In other words, the Micro Tuner for the Fords is a *future* product. Currently the Micro Tuner is how we reprogram the late-model GM computers, due to their design change to implement OBD-II.

As far as the new Lightning Flip Chip, it's "Program I" is the stock factory program, with no changes. That is the "fallback" program, to be used if the vehicle is operated where fuel quality/octane is not up to par, etc. "Program II" is the performance program. The factory program is already seriously de-tuned, so no further "detuning" will be done, there is no need.

Bests,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com

 

Thanks, Mike.

I kind of thought the engine might be falling out of the power band by 5k.