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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Daniel, do you wear polarized sunglasses? Mine cause a rainbow in the tint when I wear em.
actually, that is what causes it. i only wear my oakleys when the sun is coming through the windshield which is the only time i really notice it. other than that my windshield is too dark for sunglasses. lol
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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ok so two layers of 5 over factory (20) equals out to 0.0005% mathematically lol you're right, basically just black paint. and 3M does make very good tint i think..
FINALLY someone who knows how to calculate tint!! was reading this thread like wth are these people talking about?

my truck has .0075% tint on it when people ask haha. 5% over 15%. i can't see **** when I back up so i don't buy the bs everybody is throwin out haha. i've had the tint for a few years, i've gotten 3 tickets.. 1 got thrown out. and i just got the other last week
 
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Does anyone have a high brand ( Suntek, Llumar ) of 5% tint dark black non charcoal colored, at least 7'x3.5' in size? I want to redo my front doors a bit darker. I am aware of the visibility issues also, I have had 5% on fronts before and accept any responsibilities for my actions. I just don't want to buy a $165 dollar 100' roll of tint that I will only use an 1/8th of.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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I've got the factory tint which comes out to about 18% from what I've been told on my expedition. 15% on the front two windows and a strip on the windshield. I have a lot more window than you guys so how much do you guys think it would darken up my truck if I covered the whole windshield with 50%? I want something similar to 5% or 10%.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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50% does nothing but cut the glare down from what i've seen. a 30% would darken the sides up a bit but probably not enough to give you want you want. you could probably throw another layer of 30 or 20 all the way around which would i believe would give you what you want. plus if you done your whole windshield you would have to remove the strip then reapply it, or it won't come out as clean.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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i live in new york and i know for a long time there were tagging everyone with tints. but since ive started driving ive had tints on all of my vehicles, 20% or darker and in 14 years of driving ive only gotten 1 ticket. i have 20% on my truck right now and 5% limo tint for my visor strip and i havent had any issues. so that 1 80 dollar ticket i got spread over 14 years is literally like 5 daoolars a yr i lost. not exactly missing it. i say go for it. i personally like vehicles with tint rather than without. just looks so much better.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlackFx2
Hey boys! I'm about to darken my windows. I was going to put up 10 percent all the way around (excluding the front windshield) on top of my factory tint. I was wondering how strict law enforcement is on tint laws. I don't want to put it on if I get stopped every time I leave my house. Thanks guys!.... Also, if you think that's too dark I am open to opinions. I don't want people to be able to see me very well. But my priority is safety, so I need to be able to see out a little bit.
Short version? Nothing here in any post on the internet is going to have any effect on the outcome of future traffic stops you find yourself the subject of .... or how often they occurr.

Longer version to expand .... We have a good law here, I felt it was fair and I enforced it when time allowed. None of this is personal, it's just a point of view held by myself and so many .... oh so many of my buddies.

First stop, whether I wrote a ticket or a warning .... I expected it to be gone next day .... as a ticket today is NOT a free pass until court date next month. If I saw it still there days later, automatic ticket .... sometimes with same court date as first ticket. Likewise, was no need to tell me another trooper wrote you last week, but I appreciate that you let me know that you have already been told at least once .... so it was like ..... "Here, press hard 'cause there's 4 copies under that one".

You mention safety and the need for you to see? Just like you do, other motorist also use visual clues of the other driver .... like is he looking at me or out the left window while at that stop sign? Is he even looking at me or is he talking on a cell phone or having a heart attack while he's fast overtaking my stopped car here at this light?

At night, overly dark tint on front side glass makes it hard to tell if a car is coming from the left or if you see a reflection of the right. Dark side glass tint also affects side rear view mirror view in daylight.

You make a choice to bring a vehicle on a highway into public. You don't want to be seen you said? Well, then just stay home. When you drive you are on a public roadway and you give up the privacy of your bedroom. I liked to observe a driver, see what he/she was doing while in that public area. I looked for drunks and underage drvers and I looked to see harnesses and radar detectors.

50% VLT front side (and 35% VLT rear side and rear if a pass car) if applied tint. Only a strip across top of W-shield. Law says 7% tollerance, so call it 43 and 28%.

I don't know your state's laws but when in this state, this state's law prevails (that was a link). Applied window tint is not standardized across country nor is it required like tires, windshieldf, brake lights, headlights, etc. Applied window tint is "optional" and as such, is treated very differently state to state.

§ 46.2-1052. Tinting films, signs, decals, and stickers on windshields, etc.; penalties.

A. Except as otherwise provided in this article or permitted by federal law, it shall be unlawful for any person to operate any motor vehicle on a highway with any sign, poster, colored or tinted film, sun-shading material, or other colored material on the windshield, front or rear side windows, or rear windows of such motor vehicle. ..... etc ...... (long code section)
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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I looked for drunks and underage drvers and I looked to see harnesses and radar detectors.
Even radar detectors are illegal where you are from? Damn, I hope I never stroll through that place, sounds like you guys are striving for an impossible utopia. lol
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Even radar detectors are illegal where you are from? Damn, I hope I never stroll through that place, sounds like you guys are striving for an impossible utopia. lol
Well, now that you asked ... ... radar or lidar detectors or jammers. No utopia, but radar detectors themselves have been illegal here since at least 1962 when J C Whittney sold a battery powered "Radar Sentry" (I think that was the name) that hung over the sun visor. Law was revised to end total confiscation in late '70s (though they may still be held as evidence if need be, which I felt was the case when a driver caused me to have tro actually search for it .... mail it back COD after court) and later as jammers became popular and then again when Lidar came in.

But no utopia. We still have too many killed on the highway.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...+cod+46.2-1079

46.2-1079. Radar detectors; demerit points not to be awarded.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any radar, laser, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any state or federal agency.

... etc .... (long section)
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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You know, I hadn't seen one since seeing them in the J C Whitney catalogs in the early '60s when I was a kid .... and so just now I Googled "Radar Sentry" to see if my memory was OK .... and here you go!

http://www.guysoflidar.com/museum/th...detectors.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/museum/radar-sentry0.html

Damn .... here I am at 57 and a memory like a steel trap still ... ... that's OK!


Back then, window tint was often a awefull looking splotchy spray.
 

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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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I see your in OKC... i live around there myself and do a lot of driving in okc, edmond, and, yukon... i have 5% over the factory tint in back and 5% on the fronts (pretty dark at night) and i have never had a problem with cops. Even the few times ive been pulled over they never said a word to me... maybe im lucky. ? If you havent gotten tinted yet you should check out formula one off 33rd and santa fe. They are very good and they are the kind of people that take pride in their work.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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You know, I hadn't seen one since seeing them in the J C Whitney catalogs in the early '60s when I was a kid .... and so just now I Googled "Radar Sentry" to see if my memory was OK .... and here you go!

http://www.guysoflidar.com/museum/th...detectors.html

http://www.guysoflidar.com/museum/radar-sentry0.html

Damn .... here I am at 57 and a memory like a steel trap still ... ... that's OK!


Back then, window tint was often a awefull looking splotchy spray.
Now, that's old school. lol I have mine under the rearview mirror and I keep the mirror situated higher so i can see the warning as well as hear it. With it being hard wired to my amp you see no wire, so when the mirror is lowered you cannot see it from where a cop would be standing. I also used a switch to shut if off when the cop is walking up. Even though they are not illegal to use where I am from, it's almost a guaranteed ticket if they see it and have you pulled over for speeding.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DanielWalker10
... etc ...

Even though they are not illegal to use where I am from, it's almost a guaranteed ticket if they see it and have you pulled over for speeding.
Yeah, funny how that is!
 
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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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I'm not gloating at all, but this is how radar detectors are viewed by police officials in MS.

I was behind a car waiting to pull into the traffic flow northbound on a local road. I checked my mirrors and it was all clear, so I let off my brake...and rolled into her at 1-2 MPH. She apparently couldn't see out of her car as well as I could my truck, so she hesitated, while I did not.

After pulling over and inspecting damage, I spoke to her father on the cell phone and explained the only damage was two tiny ****** on her back bumper from my license plate holder. He insisted that the police be notified (rather angrily), so my girlfriend called the cops. I fully expected a ticket, as the law always assumes that to rear-end someone, the driver must not be paying adequate attention (which I admit, was true in this instance).

When the officer arrives, he instead cited HER for not having proof of insurance on THAT particular car, AND there was a radar detector in plain sight on her dash so if he didn't cite her for it, it probably swayed things her way.

TBear, I am a good driver and always stay on the right side of the law--would it have been against the law for us to have NOT called the police and filed a report? Like I said, her father was adamant that we do so, so I did. I was just wondering if it was necessary, considering there were no injuries and about two dollars worth of damage that could easily be covered over with touch-up paint?

BTW, this happened about 5 years ago, in my old truck so this is nothing current.
 

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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DSGSTX81
I'm not gloating at all, .... etc ...
TBear, I am a good driver and always stay on the right side of the law--would it have been against the law for us to have NOT called the police and filed a report? Like I said, her father was adamant that we do so, so I did. I was just wondering if it was necessary, considering there were no injuries and about two dollars worth of damage that could easily be covered over with touch-up paint?

BTW, this happened about 5 years ago, in my old truck so this is nothing current.
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As far as I know, radar detectors are perfectly OK under Mississippi law, Virginia is an exception and has been since way back. People used to complain that Va. was out of step, I always took the position that Va. was at the cutting edge instead.

The damage you descuibe, had it been in Va. and less that $1000 damage and involving no injuries or deaths would have been considered a "non reportable" wreck in that no report of it would be filed by the investigating officer with the state's DMV. He would have investigated to determine that much and help drivers exchange information, determine if any violations occurred and take appropriate enforcement action .... which he did. I suspect he councelled you to be more careful in the future so you don't run over a motorcyclist next time, and he charged her on the insurance deal. He does not need you in court to make that case, she may in fact show proof before court or at court that the vehicle was insured and that would be dismissed if she does so.

To charge you with what would be a "moving violation" (the insurance deal isn't a "moving violation", carries no points, but does carry a big fine if found guilty) of "following too close" or even "reckless driving" (which in that case likely would be reduced at court here), he would need to subpeona her in most courts as the other involved party to give the judge the best perspective of the wreck possible. He chose to warn you.

As to "not calling the law" ..... that's fine if and only if the wreck does not reach the threash hold required to be "reportable" to DMV ($1000 damage OR injury OR death) .... and so long as ALL involved agree. If one wants to call the law or you get a "funny feeling" .... stay and call the law. If you leave and they stay and call there's a chance you get a call or visit later from an officer investigating what is reported to him as a "hit and run". You may be able to explain it, but "good luck". Once someone said they wanted to call the law, you were best off staying .... as you can see.

But only the officer can say if the radar detector ws even noticed. They are just noticed quicker up here because they are illegal up here.

Hope it helped ....... Later .........
 

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