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2013 F-150 unveiled!

Old Jun 5, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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Here's hoping they offer a better looking 7-lug wheel with the Heavy Duty Payload Package. I'd consider a nice chromed steel or clad wheel. C'mon Ford! Get with it!
 
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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STX has never been available in a crew cab so I wouldn't expect it to be now.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Pretty much looks the same to me.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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C'mon Ford give us STX'ers a SuperCrew! It's the only trim level that has no SC option
 
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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I like the upgrades! The XLT grille is a shrunk down SD grille
 
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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I would imagine the new lights should bolt right up on the 09-12 models but I would suspect that the wiring would be a little different since they are hid's they would require more power.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ground_effectz
I would imagine the new lights should bolt right up on the 09-12 models but I would suspect that the wiring would be a little different since they are hid's they would require more power.
HIDs require less power than halogens.

So far I'm understanding that base models come with halogen projectors, and upper models (Lariat, Platinum) come with HIDs?

Either way, those are most likely 35W Philips 85122+ bulbs sitting behind a fluted E55 projector.

The housings themselves look to use the same surrounding parts, so I assume they will bolt up no problem. What everyone's problem with this swap is going to be is power delivery. I'd bet a quarter that Ford synced the HIDs to a Can-Bus system housed within the PCM, instead of a traditional switch->harness->ballast->bulb system. So don't be surprised if you have to go to Ford for a PCM flash or even worse: get a PCM from a 2013. A cheaper alternative could be bypass the whole light system and install your own harness going back to the OEM switch.

But, all speculation at this point. I'll be stopping by my local Ford dealer to examine this new headlight system closer up.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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Regarding the lights, I wonder what Ford is using as DRLs now? They won't use the HIDs for that so perhaps the front turn signal on full brightness? If so, I really like that method better than using the low beams as they do currently.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Regarding the lights, I wonder what Ford is using as DRLs now? They won't use the HIDs for that so perhaps the front turn signal on full brightness? If so, I really like that method better than using the low beams as they do currently.
Why wouldn't they use the HIDs? They have twice the service length of halogens. And (correct me if I'm wrong) doesn't Canadian requirements say it has to be at least 20% brightness of a full headlight?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by seadragon
Regarding the lights, I wonder what Ford is using as DRLs now? They won't use the HIDs for that so perhaps the front turn signal on full brightness? If so, I really like that method better than using the low beams as they do currently.
Why wouldn't they use the HIDs? Maybe they have one of those CCFL rings like the Taurus, Fiesta, etc have

Already got confirmation of the HIDs/projectors for the 2013 F-150:

They are Valeo Bi-Xenon Projectors mated to a 2.5" fluted lens with D3S Osram Ballast and 4300K D3S bulbs
 

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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Raptor05121
Why wouldn't they use the HIDs? They have twice the service length of halogens. And (correct me if I'm wrong) doesn't Canadian requirements say it has to be at least 20% brightness of a full headlight?
It's just that most vehicles I've seen with HID headlights do not use them as DRLs. They usually use the front turn signals on steady/full brightness or even a strip of bright LEDs.

Some of the newer Ford models are using the turn signals I've noticed.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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Just went to the dealer yesterday...they knew nothing other than what I told them about the 2013's...told me they couldn't order them until November or December, i informed him of the actual order acceptance date and they shrugged it off...I think they basically just wanted me to take a 2012 off the lot rather than ordering exactly what I want.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mellman
Just went to the dealer yesterday...they knew nothing other than what I told them about the 2013's...told me they couldn't order them until November or December, i informed him of the actual order acceptance date and they shrugged it off...I think they basically just wanted me to take a 2012 off the lot rather than ordering exactly what I want.
Sounds like it is time to find another dealer(or at the very least another salesman)
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Rambo,
I agree. These are some nice updates. Will you be ordering a 2013?
2016. I will skip this generation and wait for the all new next gen F-150 plus 1 year for the kinks to be worked out. So 2016 F-150 for me.

New Ford F-Series Truck in 2015, Lincoln MKC Small Sedan By 2014, Report Predicts

Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/new-ford-f...#ixzz1x28lwd9g
 
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DSGSTX81
C'mon Ford give us STX'ers a SuperCrew! It's the only trim level that has no SC option
I know, right! Can't you even get a Supercrew XL? Why not make it an option on the STX?
 
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