2013 F-150 unveiled!
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That probably has something to do with the fact that most people use the xl as a work truck so it would make sense having the crew cab on that model for that reason. As for the stx I haven't got a clue.
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If you need a crewcab go with XLT or FX.
If you need a crewcab with a bench seat go with XLT.
If you need a bench seat crewcab with monochrome paint like FX, go with XLT Custom. Don't like the 3.7? Then go back to XLT. You have to learn to make compromises no matter what trim you buy.
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HIDs require less power than halogens.
So far I'm understanding that base models come with halogen projectors, and upper models (Lariat, Platinum) come with HIDs?
Either way, those are most likely 35W Philips 85122+ bulbs sitting behind a fluted E55 projector.
The housings themselves look to use the same surrounding parts, so I assume they will bolt up no problem. What everyone's problem with this swap is going to be is power delivery. I'd bet a quarter that Ford synced the HIDs to a Can-Bus system housed within the PCM, instead of a traditional switch->harness->ballast->bulb system. So don't be surprised if you have to go to Ford for a PCM flash or even worse: get a PCM from a 2013. A cheaper alternative could be bypass the whole light system and install your own harness going back to the OEM switch.
But, all speculation at this point. I'll be stopping by my local Ford dealer to examine this new headlight system closer up.
So far I'm understanding that base models come with halogen projectors, and upper models (Lariat, Platinum) come with HIDs?
Either way, those are most likely 35W Philips 85122+ bulbs sitting behind a fluted E55 projector.
The housings themselves look to use the same surrounding parts, so I assume they will bolt up no problem. What everyone's problem with this swap is going to be is power delivery. I'd bet a quarter that Ford synced the HIDs to a Can-Bus system housed within the PCM, instead of a traditional switch->harness->ballast->bulb system. So don't be surprised if you have to go to Ford for a PCM flash or even worse: get a PCM from a 2013. A cheaper alternative could be bypass the whole light system and install your own harness going back to the OEM switch.
But, all speculation at this point. I'll be stopping by my local Ford dealer to examine this new headlight system closer up.
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Correctamundo. The XL SuperCrew is a rather recent addition, started in 2008, in response to fleet customers needing crewcabs to transport crews. Ford cannot make a STX almost like other models because there would be too much overlap and it would be a bad business model and hurt sales.
If you need a crewcab go with XLT or FX.
If you need a crewcab with a bench seat go with XLT.
If you need a bench seat crewcab with monochrome paint like FX, go with XLT Custom. Don't like the 3.7? Then go back to XLT. You have to learn to make compromises no matter what trim you buy.
If you need a crewcab go with XLT or FX.
If you need a crewcab with a bench seat go with XLT.
If you need a bench seat crewcab with monochrome paint like FX, go with XLT Custom. Don't like the 3.7? Then go back to XLT. You have to learn to make compromises no matter what trim you buy.
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Theres been a bit of talk about fitting the 2013 headlights and grilles onto 2010-2012 trucks. I could be wrong but wasnt there talk of the 2013 having a more squished down / sleeker front end (aerodynamics) than the previous years trucks? Wouldnt this mean the grilles wouldnt be interchangeable?
That is silly thinking (on Ford's part, not yours). Following that logic, why offer a SC Raptor? I understand about offroading with 4-6 people, but wouldn't the Raptor be the ultimate "sporty" truck?
If they want a "Sporty" STX, just offer it in Regular Cab. After all, what's sporty about suicide doors
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If they want a "Sporty" STX, just offer it in Regular Cab. After all, what's sporty about suicide doors
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That is silly thinking (on Ford's part, not yours). Following that logic, why offer a SC Raptor? I understand about offroading with 4-6 people, but wouldn't the Raptor be the ultimate "sporty" truck?
If they want a "Sporty" STX, just offer it in Regular Cab. After all, what's sporty about suicide doors?
If they want a "Sporty" STX, just offer it in Regular Cab. After all, what's sporty about suicide doors
?I have seen the new FX grill and I think it looks good, but I didn't really care for the current one. It is sort of a cross between the Lariat and XLT. It has 2 bars, but it blends into the sides like the Lariat. It doesn't have the vertical pieces on the ends of the horizontal bars. The bars have the solid u-channel shape like the XLT, but in black. I saw one with an appearance package, so it was glossy. Overall, not a lot has changed, the side stripes are the same, but the new grill looks good.
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Some of you make valid points. The city I work for buys crewcab XL F-150's and Super Duty trucks because they need them. We have a seatbelt policy so it's hard to reprimand an employee for not wearing one when his work crew is assigned to a standard cab truck. Ford used to only make the Raptor in Supercab trim but people wanted a crewcab. Ever notice how many new crewcab trucks you see on the road compared to a few years ago? People love crewcab, half ton trucks!
If thats the case, than that confirms the HIDs will fit (at least). All I am reading in those articles is the option for HID projectors. I don't see anything about what the base models are going to use. Either way, the sucky reflector output of the 13rd gen warrants the $1,000+ price tag of factory HIDs
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Because cars tow travel trailers and fifth wheels and horse trailers and haul mulch and dirt and hay and all that good stuff in the back! I guess I should have bought a regular cab truck to tow my fifth wheel and just have my wife drive along to bring the kids. And then I should buy a car to haul the kids around on a daily basis. 
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Amen!
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F-150 is getting hill-descent control like on the Raptor and new Super Duty - yes!!!
"Other mechanical changes include the expanded availability of hill-descent control technology, which had been limited to the high-performance Raptor model."
link: http://www.autonews.com/article/2012...#ixzz1xD2falPy
"Other mechanical changes include the expanded availability of hill-descent control technology, which had been limited to the high-performance Raptor model."
link: http://www.autonews.com/article/2012...#ixzz1xD2falPy
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