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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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Yes, it took a while to down load the entire manual. I printed out the F150 sections an will review them with a beer.

Thanks, Ed
 
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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I got a 2011 scab 5L with a 36gallon tank two weeks ago. Got a good price,about 7k off msrp
 
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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The entire truck body and chassis was all new for 2009, the power trains were all updated with all new engines for 2011. I would not expect any real major changes till 2014 model year. At that point I would expect a lighter weight possibly smaller more fuel efficient version to meet the next round of CAFE requirements. I doubt the F150 gets any larger or more capable then they are today. At least as long as our government has a say in it.

The guy above just stated payload changes. This beefs up the thickness of the frame rails, adds seven-lug wheels (and corresponding larger 10.25-inch gear set), heavy-duty shock absorbers, springs and battery, additional engine cooling, oil-to-air auxiliary transmission cooler and a more aggressive 4.10 axle ratio. (ALL RUMORS UNTIL CONFIRMED BY FORD!!)

Sounds like it will be much more capable for towing and hauling. These are things trucks are built for. If you don't need that then there are SUVs/Vans that can haul people, small boats, and get 25 mpg. If you need a truck and want one that gets 18+ (Never owned a 4x4 truck that got more than 18 and only one of seven that even got the 18) on the highway, then this is a great option. I expect the MPG to drop to 14/20 but still a hell of a truck.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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Anyone know when the first orders for the 2012's can be placed at Canadian dealers?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jcb206
The guy above just stated payload changes. This beefs up the thickness of the frame rails, adds seven-lug wheels (and corresponding larger 10.25-inch gear set), heavy-duty shock absorbers, springs and battery, additional engine cooling, oil-to-air auxiliary transmission cooler and a more aggressive 4.10 axle ratio. (ALL RUMORS UNTIL CONFIRMED BY FORD!!)

Sounds like it will be much more capable for towing and hauling. These are things trucks are built for. If you don't need that then there are SUVs/Vans that can haul people, small boats, and get 25 mpg. If you need a truck and want one that gets 18+ (Never owned a 4x4 truck that got more than 18 and only one of seven that even got the 18) on the highway, then this is a great option. I expect the MPG to drop to 14/20 but still a hell of a truck.
Quite often the ratings are changed without actual substance changes. Mfgs sometimes under rate products only to later increase claims and rating without engenering cost. That said the f150 has been available with 7 lug wheels, 3/4 ton type axlels for many many years. It's called the heavy payload pkg and is available right now. But only up to xlt trim. The heavy payload f150 at times and maybe still today has a higher payload rating then the diesel f250. Basicly they are 3/4 tons with half ton body. In 2011 they finally came out with a decent looking 7 lug wheel.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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The 2012MY what's new document is now available online:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ok_rwj_V20.pdf

Highlights:
NEW FEATURES AND BENEFITS SUMMARY
Heavy Duty Payload Introduce Heavy Payload on Crew Cab 157”
wheelbase (XL, XLT & Lariat)
Light Duty Payload Introduce Light Duty Payload on Super Cab 163”
wheelbase (XL & XLT)
17” Aluminum Wheel Expand usage of 17” Aluminum Wheel - XL Optional
E-Locker Rear Axle Replace 9.75” limited slip rear axles with E-Locker
Rear Breaks Thicker Rear Rotors (22 mm), caliper & linings
Towing Functionality Neutral Tow on all 4x4
A4WD Two Speed TOD on Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum,
Harley Davison, and Mark LT
MSOF Delete Manual Shift On the Fly delete on XL, STR, & XLT23

2012 MY F-150 – New Features & Mid Year Actions
2011 MY Mid Year Actions
• 3.5L engine is available on F150 Reg. 4x2 ,Super Cab 4x4 & Super Crew 4x4
• 3.7L engine is available is standard on F150 4x4 Super Cab
• Skid Plates on 4x4 available as a fleet option XLT
• Reverse Sensing system on XLT – Fleet Option

2012 MY Actions
• Introduce Heavy Payload on Crew Cab 157” wheelbase (XL, XLT & Lariat)
• Introduce Light Duty Payload on Super Cab 163” wheelbase (XL & XLT)
• Introduce Neutral Tow functionality standard on all 4X4 vehicles
• Replace 9.75” limited slip rear axles with E-Locker rear axle except for
heavy payload 7-lug 9.75” 3.73 limited slip, which remains carryover
(8.8” 3.73 limited slip axle remains in the program as optional on 3.7L engine)
• Delete Manual Shift on the Fly (MSOF) program
• 3.7L 4x4 will only be offered with Electronic Shift on the Fly (ESOF)
• 5.0L 4x4 will be offered only with ESOF or Two Speed TOD
• Expand current XLT 17” Aluminum wheel as option for XL (Usage Charge)
• Brakes – New Thicker Rear Rotors (22 mm), caliper & linings
 
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Exciting. As long as there are no major discrepancies with the new drivetrains by late 2012 MY, I will likely be stepping up to one!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shermdog
The 2012MY what's new document is now available online:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...ok_rwj_V20.pdf

Highlights:
NEW FEATURES AND BENEFITS SUMMARY
Heavy Duty Payload Introduce Heavy Payload on Crew Cab 157”
wheelbase (XL, XLT & Lariat)
Looks like I will be buying a Lariat with Heavy Payload instead of a FX4 with Off-Road.

I hope they changed the wood color on Lariat again. It would be awesome if the wood trim looked more like the Platinum.

Ford is going to be selling a lot more Lariats this year.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rambo.
I hope they changed the wood color on Lariat again. It would be awesome if the wood trim looked more like the Platinum.

Ford is going to be selling a lot more Lariats this year.
I KNOW! That light colored woodgrain looks HORRIBLE, especially with the black interior. But I don't think they'll change too much other than maybe a new color scheme and wheels. If I was ready to get a new one, I'd go get the '11 in the next month or two for the great year end deals.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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I keep trying to tell myself that I like the new light Lariat wood trim, but something is just a little bit off. On the doors it looks ok. But around the stereo it keeps reminding me of the Family Truckster. Please, Ford, make the change.

The changes for 2012 will be huge if you want the SuperCrew 6.5' bed with heavy-duty payload. On Lariat, will they use the new 7 lug aluminum wheels from 2011 or have a Lariat exclusive version?

One thing in 2011 you couldn't get with the heavy-duty payload is the off-road package. So you might have to make the choice between off-road with e-locker, or more payload.

 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambo.
I keep trying to tell myself that I like the new light Lariat wood trim, but something is just a little bit off. On the doors it looks ok. But around the stereo it keeps reminding me of the Family Truckster. Please, Ford, make the change.

The changes for 2012 will be huge if you want the SuperCrew 6.5' bed with heavy-duty payload. On Lariat, will they use the new 7 lug aluminum wheels from 2011 or have a Lariat exclusive version?

One thing in 2011 you couldn't get with the heavy-duty payload is the off-road package. So you might have to make the choice between off-road with e-locker, or more payload.
I really tried to convince myself to like the light wood too but I just can't.

My poor uncle ordered a new 2011 F150 Lariat earlier this year. He sold his 2009 to my dad and a day later went to pickup the 2011 and immediately wanted the 2009 back, but he took the 2011 because the powertrain changes made him happy enough to get over the awful wood. I told him to buy a Platinum, but he thinks they're too flashy.

I know he's excited to buy a 2012 if the woodgrain changes. He also wants to change from the 5.0 to the EcoBoost. I was all pumped to trade the trusty Silverado for a 2011 but now have been waiting for the 2012 too, because I want a Lariat w/ the EcoBoost and Off-Road. I might have to consider the heavy-duty payload. I hope they use different 7-lug wheels. The new wheels on the 2012 Super Duty Lariat Chrome Package are awesome -- maybe they'll use something similar. Also it would be great if they could include the Off-Road package on the heavy-duty. It's almost a requirement for me. I've always got the Z71 package with my GMs and would like an Off-Road package.

I'm really, really hoping they change the Lariat woodgrain for 2012. I am sure that they will. It seems Ford has been really good about mixing at least something up each model year to keep things fresh, and I'm sure plenty of people have complained about the wood. I also am hoping for a Royal Red/Maroon color back, but I won't hold my breath.
 

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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I have black interior in my 2010 Screw. Although I like the 2010 better than the 2011 white wood, I do like the light wood with the black interior. With the tan interior, it just looks terrible... Cheap. In person, the black looks good in the 2011's.
I was set to get a Superduty this fall for payload reasons, but if this new F150 data is true, I may be able to stick with one. Hopefully, the 7-lug wheels won't look stupid. These types of last minute changes by the oval almost always turn out looking just like that...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cc1999
Quite often the ratings are changed without actual substance changes. Mfgs sometimes under rate products only to later increase claims and rating without engenering cost. That said the f150 has been available with 7 lug wheels, 3/4 ton type axlels for many many years. It's called the heavy payload pkg and is available right now. But only up to xlt trim. The heavy payload f150 at times and maybe still today has a higher payload rating then the diesel f250. Basicly they are 3/4 tons with half ton body. In 2011 they finally came out with a decent looking 7 lug wheel.
These payload changes are due to the 8200 GVWR rating and these items are ones that I found that are different on the HD Payload Package. The difference is this HD Package will be with Supercrews now and hopefully all trim levels.

EDIT: XL, XLT, and Lariats get HD Payload package one Supercrews with 6.5 ft beds. This may double Lariat orders. Agree with Rambo.
 

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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What would really be awesome for me, would be the extended cab Lariat with the 8 foot bed, if they were to offer such a machine in 2012.

Thats the only reason my work truck is a GMC, is because GM still lets you get a 8ft bed ext cab trucks with all the frills of any other model 1/2 ton.

I would have bought a ford but the base model or even the XLT are somewhat plain and neither offered the sync Nav system and backup camera which as it is now with my GMC I have leather NAV and camera just not Fords Sync and travel link which I could not get from Ford with an 8ft bed.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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Ford offers the extended cab in the 8 foot bed. Look on their build and price site. The crewcab is not available in an 8 foot, but a 1500 is no longer, either.
 
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