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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Cool Custom HID Retrofit!! Light Output Comparisons too

Okay guys, I know a lot of you have been waiting for an in depth comparison between all the possible lighting systems for our headlights. Many people on here have done the eBay projectors, but I have personally ran the other 3 systems on my truck.

Now I did my best to get the same angles and locations for these comparisons; I went as far as switching back to my stock set up to get these pictures just for y'all Notice the difference in the width of beam spread, the cut-off of the light, the intensity, the glare, and anything else you can pinpoint.

So first is going to be our stock output:
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Ground-level viewpoint


The next level of light output, and probably the most common mod done when searching for more light is the.....Plug-n-Play HID kit. This kit was Bi-Xenon 35 watt 6000k HID bulbs:
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Ground-level viewpoint

Now the final, and what I feel to be the ultimate set up....the custom retrofitted HID projectors. In this case, Bi-Xenon 35 watt 5000k FX-R HID projectors. I did not get high-beam pictures because of my location of the photoshoot, but will do so if requested.
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Ground-level viewpoint


Now for the aesthetics portion of this modification:

The stock head-on view of my 2009 Platinum:
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The custom projector retrofits:
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For the close-up shots of these headlights, please go to the following link:

http://hidillusionz.blogspot.com/201...-retrofit.html

The parts were purchased from The Retrofit Source:
Apollo Shrouds (also known as Cayenne shrouds)
FX-R Projectors
5000k bulbs
AMP to D2S bulb adapters (so I could reuse my plug-n-play wiring and ballasts)


ALL OF THIS WORK (minus install) WAS DONE BY RICH AT HID ILLUSIONZ. The work was done in 2 days and the shipping is as fast as you want to pay for.

They were EXCELLENT to work with from start to finish; this was over a month in the making for me. They offered to sell me all necessary parts for the project and do the work, but also said I was free to shop around for better prices and send them the parts if I did find better prices. They sent in-progress pictures of all the work, and even did changes to my liking on the side marker tinting when I wanted it darker than originally done. They always respond quickly, and even called me on the phone when I sent an email with my phone number because of a troubleshooting problem I had during installation.

Please check out their website if you are at all considering getting work like this done. Many processes are done complimentary if having a retrofit done (color-mod for the lens, reflector painting, side marker tinting, etc....). They also offer group discounts for the forum if at least 5 people do it at once.


Unrelated: I also custom tinted my tail lights and will be tinting the orange reflectors on the backs of my mirrors. Please stay tuned for that thread; it will show the final products of the head lights, mirrors, and tail lights.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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That looks awesome! First 09+ I've seen with retrofits.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Lights look amazing!!(truck too) If you dont mind me asking how much was the total on that project? I would love to do that to my rig.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Nice work and very complete post. I think this pretty well shows how simply slapping HID's in the factory housings imporves light output, but can significantly increase glare. (I think it also shows you had a minor aiming issue too.)

The final solution shows how a properly designed HID system works significantly better than anything else. Nice work!
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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That looks excellent man! Just emailed them for a quote because I have been thinking about something like this for a while!
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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that's perfect and i really like the way you document the progression from stock to projectors. i may do the same now and ptm the housing for ingot slvr. did you diy? what troubleshooting did they help you with? install?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Nice job. The alignment seems to be off. And I don't like the look of that small projector in such a huge housing. Maybe it'll grow on me
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Looks great! How much?
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNIGHT
Lights look amazing!!(truck too) If you dont mind me asking how much was the total on that project? I would love to do that to my rig.
Well I was going to PM prices but since everyone is asking....

It all depends how you do this. I purchased a 2nd set of headlights to use while mine were being retrofitted. That was $100+$20 shipping. I already had the plug-n-play HID kit for $125 so I had the ballasts and wiring harness (threw away those bulbs). Then the projectors, shrouds, adapters, and bulbs were bought from The Retrofit Source; all for $220. The work done by Rich is custom quoted, but mine with all the tinting and painting was $350+$40 shipping each way.

For me, it was $895, but I will be selling the 2nd set of headlights to recoup some money. If you were coming from the stock set up and didn't buy a spare set to use in the mean time, it would cost you the estimated $350 for the labor, $315 for a full kit from The Retrofit Source, and then shipping. So about $665+shipping.

Not cheap by any means, but as you can all see....well worth it!!!

Originally Posted by 2stroked
Nice work and very complete post. I think this pretty well shows how simply slapping HID's in the factory housings imporves light output, but can significantly increase glare. (I think it also shows you had a minor aiming issue too.)

The final solution shows how a properly designed HID system works significantly better than anything else. Nice work!
For the aiming, it wasn't so much an issue, as much as I chose to aim them like that. I originally had them aimed further down, but I wasn't getting the distance out of them I wanted...to the point that the high beam was worthless. As a result, I aimed them a little higher. Surprisingly, I never got flashed with them; maybe people are used to them in the SoCal area.

Originally Posted by stompy
That looks excellent man! Just emailed them for a quote because I have been thinking about something like this for a while!
Nice! Please mention that Brandon from F150online.com sent you! I'd love to reap the benefits of their referral program

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that's perfect and i really like the way you document the progression from stock to projectors. i may do the same now and ptm the housing for ingot slvr. did you diy? what troubleshooting did they help you with? install?
No, I did not do the work myself, but I did do the install. The troubleshooting was multiple parts. First, the passenger light was not turning on. After some trial and error, I realized my ballast burnt out (ordered a new one already), but I just switched the wiring from my HID fog light ballast to the new projector until the new ballast comes in (so I have a working headlight and a non-operational fog light until then); none of which was Rich's problem, but he helped me figure it out. The other issue was that I had no high beam right after the install. Turns out there was a cable coming out of the back of the projector that I had no idea what it was (now I do...). I had an extra connector on the wiring harness but the connectors did not match up. He said I could cut off both connectors and just splice them together. I ended up cutting the connector I needed off my old plug-n-play HID bulb and splicing it into the cable coming out of the projector. Now I have matching connectors from the wiring harness to the projector cable so I can unplug whenever needed.

I am happy to say, all is up and running now

Originally Posted by Raptor05121
Nice job. The alignment seems to be off. And I don't like the look of that small projector in such a huge housing. Maybe it'll grow on me
The alignment is rotated a little clockwise on the passenger head light. Rich already noticed this and offered to correct it for me free of charge.

As far as the projector size, it is one of the largest projectors with one of the largest shrouds you can buy. It's really just because the housing on our trucks is so damn big.

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Looks great! How much?
Thanks. Please see ^^^ in this post for pricing.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Great write up Scribing for later.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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im curious as to how he removes the lens, i tried baking it in the oven at 250 for 8 mins and the "glue sealant" didnt really seem to loosen up at all, how ever on my audi RS4 i did the same oven meathod and it works like a charm...suscribing to this one
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Looks freakin awesome!! Maybe a slight tint over the headlight might make it look better in my opinion but other than that looks sweet!
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Light output is phenominal. Personally, I think it would of looked better if you left the housing chrome. Then the projector would hardly be noticeable.

-Curtis-
 
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Outstanding post!

Let us hope those with forebrains the size of olives when it comes to safe and proper lighting take note - yeah right.

Great job, sir. Thank-you.


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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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That looks great, nice job!
 
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