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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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that 10.5:1 compression on that 5.0 is where all that power is coming from, Sadly supercharging something with that much compression will only allow about 6lbs before trouble comes along.

Im not hating on the new motors because i really like the line up, but i wonder what a 5.4 with a 10.5:1 compression could do.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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i like the color
 
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by weazel
that 10.5:1 compression on that 5.0 is where all that power is coming from, Sadly supercharging something with that much compression will only allow about 6lbs before trouble comes along.

Im not hating on the new motors because i really like the line up, but i wonder what a 5.4 with a 10.5:1 compression could do.
Sounds like a good project!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by weazel
that 10.5:1 compression on that 5.0 is where all that power is coming from, Sadly supercharging something with that much compression will only allow about 6lbs before trouble comes along.

Im not hating on the new motors because i really like the line up, but i wonder what a 5.4 with a 10.5:1 compression could do.
Seriously, who care?

At 6 psi the Mustang GT made 543whp and 521ft-pd of torque at the wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04V_f9hOCCU



Edit : And the Ecoboost have 10:1 of compression. Not that much less then the 5.0 in the F150... I guess we won't see alot of boost out of the Ecoboost then... hahaha
 

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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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I bet Roush engineers are looking at supercharging the F150 5.0. I would gladly swap my F250 for a Roush F150 to go with my 428R
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by °°Pat°°
Seriously, who care?

At 6 psi the Mustang GT made 543whp and 521ft-pd of torque at the wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04V_f9hOCCU



Edit : And the Ecoboost have 10:1 of compression. Not that much less then the 5.0 in the F150... I guess we won't see alot of boost out of the Ecoboost then hahaha
Ford says ecoboost has 13.5 psi
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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I bet Roush engineers are looking at supercharging the F150 5.0. I would gladly swap my F250 for a Roush F150 to go with my 428R
I'd like to see them bring it back!
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
Ford says ecoboost has 13.5 psi
Exactly.

Why would the 5.0 grenade with boost at 10.5:1 but the ecoboost will take much more boost at 10:1...


Ford said the 5.0 was built to had boost later... I sure ain't scared to put boost on the 5.0. SC and 8 psi will give over 500hp and 500ft-pd of torque with a beautiful V8 sound


If Honda can take boost and stay reliable with 11:1 or 11.2:1 (S2000) of compression... I sure hope Ford can take it to with 10.5:1 :o
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by °°Pat°°
Exactly.

Why would the 5.0 grenade with boost at 10.5:1 but the ecoboost will take much more boost at 10:1...


Ford said the 5.0 was built to had boost later... I sure ain't scared to put boost on the 5.0. SC and 8 psi will give over 500hp and 500ft-pd of torque with a beautiful V8 sound


If Honda can take boost and stay reliable with 11:1 or 11.2:1 (S2000) of compression... I sure hope Ford can take it to with 10.5:1 :o
Because the EB was built with heavier internals (diesel-like) to withstand the boost.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Because the EB was built with heavier internals (diesel-like) to withstand the boost.
(diesel-like) explain Lucie
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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The F-150’s 5.0 benefits from some of the work done on the Mustang’s 5.0, which was engineered with the goal of being able to add a supercharger at a later date to boost performance, Harrison said.

We put a forged crank and good rods in [the Mustang’s 412 hp, 390 pounds-feet 5.0 V-8],” Harrison said. “The head bolts are upsized. The main bearing bolts are upsized. That then lends itself for a very robust truck application.”

The 5.0 also uses Ti-VCT to continually optimize power and fuel economy during two cam timing schedules – one for performance and one for mileage. It’s also E85 ethanol capable, which gives it increased power figures (and lower fuel economy), though Ford won’t say by how much.

There are some physical changes, too. The exhaust headers for both engines are different from each other for extra durability in the F-150. Instead of the Mustang’s unique tubular stainless-steel exhaust headers, the F-150 uses thermally tougher conventional cast-iron exhaust manifolds that give it a small loss in low-speed torque and performance, which has to recovered to improve the driving experience and meet long-duration high temperature work demands – such as during cross-country towing. To do that, Harrison’s team shrank the duration of the intake cam duration from 260 degrees to 240 degrees, dropped the compression ratio from 11:1 to 10.5:1 and advanced spark timing for extra low-speed torque. The changes also help F-150 owners run their 5.0 V-8 with regular unleaded instead of super unleaded for optimal performance in the Mustang.

The F-150 5.0 also gets a heavy-duty oil cooler that's not shared with the Mustang.
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Because the EB was built with heavier internals (diesel-like) to withstand the boost.


The 5.0 too have stronger internals.


And are you trying to say, Honda built there engine to withstand boost? Honda's are built for high rev, N/A power, but they can still withstand the boost even at 11.2:1 of compression. So i guess Ford engine are just weaker then Honda engine...
 

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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Direct injection is how the ecoboost can have higher compression with boost... Direct injection lowers combustion chamber temps, lessing the chance of detonation.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by weazel
that 10.5:1 compression on that 5.0 is where all that power is coming from, Sadly supercharging something with that much compression will only allow about 6lbs before trouble comes along.

Im not hating on the new motors because i really like the line up, but i wonder what a 5.4 with a 10.5:1 compression could do.
Roush is getting 525hp supercharging the 5.0 Mustang with their TVS.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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wonder why they are so late coming out...... cause they were having troubles period.
I don't think so - they told everyone up front many months ago that the 2011 was going to be a late introduction, just like the 2009's were. Ford now has a new procedure - when they do a major model change, they build a bunch of them and hold them while they run exhaustive tests on them to make sure that Job 1 is right before they are released.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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I'm not getting a new F150 for at least a year or 2 so the kinks will be worked out, but I'm really liking the idea of a single cab FX4 with this engine.
AFAIK, Ford doesn't offer a single cab FX4.
 
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