I'm late to this debate because I don't lurk here very much. I think a lot of you are selling the EB short just because it is a 6 cylinder. My wife has a Mazda CX-7 with a 2.3 Turbo 4 banger in it and it gets up and goes just as well as a comparable 6 cylinder crossover. Direct injection plus turbocharging yields great results in acceleration due to a flat torque curve. Go drive any VW/Audi vehicle with a 2.0T engine in it and you will understand. Every year since that engine made it's debut it's been on the top 10 engine list and for good reason. GM has done the same with the 2.0 Ecotech motors and Ford finally followed suit.

I talked to one of the guys at Unleashed tuning a couple months ago about the SHO equipped EB and he said those engines can easily put out 100 more HP with the stock turbos but they are limited by the stock fuel system. Once these engines hit a high volume vehicle like the F150 the aftermarket is going to have a field day with these engines. It's a lot easier to get more power out of a forced induction motor than it is a naturally aspirated motor.

With that being said I was dead set on a EB motor, but with the numbers the 5.0 is putting out in the new Mustang it has definitely gotten my interest so I am gonna wait and see what the reviews are on both of them especially if I have to pay more the EB.

 

The EB V6 that will be in the f150 is not the same as the V6 in the Mustang. The EB makes it's peak torque under 2000 rpm and stays flat. From all reports it will have more torgue than the 5.4. It will also have more than in the Flex because it is limited by the transmission. They have reported in a RWD application it can have much more.

 

The V6 in the Mustang isn't the EB V6 either.

 

Apparently they're gonna show off the Ecoboost in the Raptor, interesting...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/06...oboost-v6.html

 

Should be sweet.

 

Here it is. 2011 EcoBoost F-150. You also get a glimpse of the new dash screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-spb8XIlqk

 

^^Greg Johnson works for Ford. He introduced the EB in the SHO, so I think he knows what he's talking about. He says best in class towing and econ. hmm...

 

I noticed the wiper swere like 2011 SD, the info centre was too. Is the rest of the dash different?

 

Damnit I want that dash. Did you see where the needles point down instead of up?

AND it has the manual shift mode!!!!!!

 

Take a look at one of my earlier posts comparing the torque curves of the EB 3.5L and the 5.4L. Peak torque on the 3.5L is higher than the 5.4L, starts at a lower RPM, and stays flat for longer than the 5.4L. You're right, the 5.4L is a good towing powerplant, which speaks volumes for what is expected out of the EB 3.5L, by the consumer and by Ford.

As mentioned earlier, the V6 available in the Mustang is not the same as the EB 3.5L, however, by some reports the 3.7L V6 found in the Mustang will also make it to the 2011 F150. But it is nowhere in the same league as the EB 3.5L in terms of power.

It seems a lot of you assume that because it is a V6 it must be wound up to wrench the power out of it, nevermind the twin turbo set up and the specific tuning on it. Not all V6s are created equal.

 

V6's can definitely make some power, just look at the old VG30DETT in the Z32 Nissan 300ZX. I have a buddy that works on them and those things can make some insane power. He used to take me on ride alongs after he'd work on them.

 

I agree, which is exactly why the EB3.5 is better than the 5.4L. It should have ~400lb-ft of torque from 1500 to 5000rpm. The 5.4L has 80% of it's 365lb-ft at 1500rpm, or ~292. My 2V 5.4L is great from about 2000-4500rpm, but not nearly as flat as the EB. The 3V 5.4L is a little broader, but peak output is lower and still not as flat. The torque curve is electronically controlled to be exactly flat over about 4000rpm range. This is more performance than the 1/2 ton diesels people want, because the torque curve is broader. And it it is cheaper.

Some people need to look at the power, especially the torque curve of the EB3.5L. Regardless of how the engine makes it (I6, V6, V8), it's power is impressive.

 

Looks like it has the new MyFord Touch as well as manual control of the tranny like the 2011 SD.

 

Is that an easy button or a eject switch?

 

It is an emergency kill switch...found on all mules.