Excited about Ecoboost!
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Originally Posted by OffRoad99
I am getting pretty excited about the ecoboost. More so than I am about the diesel or about the possibility of the Boss/Hurricane. Here are some of the advantages as compared to the current engines and possible future engines:
- More power and torque across a wider RPM band than the 5.4.
- 20-30% better mileage than the 4.6. (That's roughly 25mpg in an F150 people)
- Getting an extra 50-100hp from a turbocharged engine requires only minor modifications and is usually easy and inexpensive to do, whilst a naturally aspirated engine is lucky to see 15-30hp from simple bolt-ons and tuning.
- Less weight even than the 4.6, making for a better balanced and better handling truck!
- The Diesel will likely be a very expensive option, and a lot of us don't want to deal with the extra expense and inconvenience of having to use diesel fuel.
- The Hurricane/Boss would likely get very poor fuel economy as compared to the ecoboost. It would also likely be very heavy in comparison, and it should be an easy matter to modify the ecoboost to exceed its predicted level of performance.
I know that there are those who feel like horsepower doesn't count unless it comes from a naturally aspirated V8, but to me that represents really old thinking. The ecoboost engine appears to be delivering everything that we have asked for, and then some, and I for one can't wait!
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Originally Posted by Rambo
Bump.
Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
"Ford’s 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6, for example, can deliver upwards of 340-plus lb.-ft. of torque across a wide engine range – 2,000 to 5,000 rpm versus 270 to 310 lb.-ft of torque for a conventional naturally aspirated 4.6-liter V-8 over the same speed range. At the same time, this V-6 gives customers an approximate 2 mpg improvement and emits up to 15 percent fewer CO2 emissions to the environment. "
A 2mpg increase is not very exciting! I believe they are comparing it with the Explorer 4.6 - V8. I don't think we're going to get great MPG increases in our heavy F-150's!
Here is the article from Ford where I got that info from:
http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.ph..._articleid=634
A 2mpg increase is not very exciting! I believe they are comparing it with the Explorer 4.6 - V8. I don't think we're going to get great MPG increases in our heavy F-150's!
Here is the article from Ford where I got that info from:
http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.ph..._articleid=634
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I think they are talking about the improvements in the SUV being 2mpg. The F-150 could see more of an improvement but who knows? I'm still excited about it because it's something new and the possibilities are limitless. I will be purchasing a trailer soon for the business and don't want to buy diesel at $4.50 a gallon and wait 7 years to recoup the investment. Also from the same article....
http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.ph..._articleid=634
Customers who tow and haul – and have long turned to more expensive diesel powertrains for their superior towing capabilities – can find the engine performance they need from an EcoBoost powertrain.
“Compared with the current cost of diesel and hybrid technologies, customers in North America can expect to recoup their initial investment in a 4-cylinder EcoBoost engine through fuel savings in approximately 30 months. A diesel in North America will take an average of seven and one-half years, while the cost of a hybrid will take nearly 12 years to recoup – given equivalent miles driven per year and fuel costs,” he said.
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im not talking about the turbo. I LOVE the sound of a turbo or supercharger, especially in a PSD. Im talking about a turbo on a 6 cylinder. Im not talking about having the truck be loud just so people will look and all, but i do like they deep rumble that a V8 has. Thats all i was saying.
Imagine NASCAR but instead of big V8s they had turbo charged V6's. It would just be wrong.
Imagine NASCAR but instead of big V8s they had turbo charged V6's. It would just be wrong.
You should really educate yourself before posting gross generalizations based on your opinion.
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Fast Buick Turbos of the 80's
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I remember those T-Types and GN's . They were quick , but I had NO trouble with any of them stock vs. stock with my 87' Mustang GT 5-speed. That was before any underdrive pulleys, tunes, etc. . My car was factory stock with different traction tires, and the worst I ever turned was 14.35 seconds in the quarter. I usually averaged 13.85-13.95 at 97-98mph. The Buicks then would run 14.5.-14.8 sec. in the quarter.( And that was the good ones) I always had them by 2-3 carlengths. Again ,this was both cars stock. now the $30K+ GNX was at 300 hp, and was faster, but the car was not equivalent to the stock GN.
I remember those T-Types and GN's . They were quick , but I had NO trouble with any of them stock vs. stock with my 87' Mustang GT 5-speed. That was before any underdrive pulleys, tunes, etc. . My car was factory stock with different traction tires, and the worst I ever turned was 14.35 seconds in the quarter. I usually averaged 13.85-13.95 at 97-98mph. The Buicks then would run 14.5.-14.8 sec. in the quarter.( And that was the good ones) I always had them by 2-3 carlengths. Again ,this was both cars stock. now the $30K+ GNX was at 300 hp, and was faster, but the car was not equivalent to the stock GN.
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If the v6 puts out the power that they are claiming and it gets great mpg, exhaust sound isn't going to be an issue. I remember listening to the buick gnx and I thought they sounded tough. Ford isn't going to sell a loud car or truck. You have to buy the exhaust to make them noisy. My truck is an 04 with the 5.4 and it is still quiet.
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Sounds a bit hypocritical to me....
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