Got the new radiator today.... NO LOVE AT ALL! Sending it back asap. Called a friend that works at a junk yard. He is my last hope on parts that I cannot find etc. I dont like to go to him to often. He is always willing to help, and I dont want to wear that out. He will get me a Great Used Radiator with all the right parts, so to speak! At least if he can!

 

Hello! '

Well Life has gotten busy lately. But have made some progress. Got used radiator from my friend. I noticed that the one he gave me was half the thickness of the old one. So I thought I could just swap the tubing quick connect fittings and slam the old one back in. NOT!!
So if any one can explain this I would love to hear why Ford did this. THE fitting on the used radiator I got, from a 2005 f150 I think.... were a different thread count than the one from my 04. New one was less, so a coarser thread. I counted seven thread peaks, Mine had 8. Needless to say they did not go into my radiator and the ones from mine did not go into the 05 radiator. SOOOO I them back into their original homes. I would like to note this.... When you remove both of those quick connect fitting from the radiator, like I did on the 05 radiator, the cooler, really a tank inside the radiator, becomes loose. I was afraid it would leak coolant, but it did not. So that was something I did not know that the tank would come loose from the plastic radiator body. I installed the new used radiator and filled with fluids and did not see any leaking after a test drive. So that is good. But, I am concerned about the radiator not having a thick enough core, Should I worry about that? I guess I could just get the fitting, if I can find it, and go back to the old radiator etc... but for now I have a trans problem to deal with.

So it works, or seems to work fine with overdrive off. When over drive is on, it shifts fine from first to second and I cannot tell if it goes to third, then in forth it seems to just rev like it is in neutral, or if it does it in third and never gets to forth.
Any one have any thoughts on this? Have seen several vids on Youtube U, about this problem. A circlip breaks on the over drive plunger and parts of the clip get stuck in the valve body. You have to remove the valve body and find, remove the pieces and maybe the ck ***** etc replace parts as needed. Truck has 227 miles on it. I am tempted to try that repair.... never been that deep into a trans before but looks doable....

here is one vid:
Makes it look easy... Thoughts?
Thanks Off to 'work"

 

https://www.f150online.com/forums/tr...roke-pics.html

 

@glc
Thanks, that is a very good thread. Read about half of it. It looks like that is what Ill be doing. The video link I posted is good too, shows part numbers etc.... Also that reference the one guy shares is great. Thanks again for that... I have some more work ahead of me.... lol

 

Now that you are bringing up the transmission issues in this thread and didn't start a new one in the transmissions forum, I'll ask the mods to move this thread into the 2004-2008 forum.

 

Hey sorry about that... and thats fine...

So any thoughts on the radiator issue? Should I just stay with the thinner one, I will now for a while anyway... I installed new cooling components, water pump, thermostat so those will be fine.
But I kept that old radiator, just in case.

 

If the thinner radiator cools sufficiently, I'd just keep it.

 

Tend to agree for the short term..... I have ordered the parts for the repair of the circlip issue.... Sure seems like thats what I have... not gonna start this until I get all the parts... seems like I could do this in a day...

Happy Forth!

 

Hope everyone had a safe and fun 4th! It was good for us, family and friends and then they all left! So thats good too!

Got the valve body out of the truck today. Not a bad job but very messy. My little lift leaves no real room for any kind of a catch basin etc....So its kitty litter all around at this point!
When I took the pan down it had a little yellow plastic plunger in it.

Any body know where this goes? In all the videos I have seen this has never been shown or mentioned.
Also loolked at a couple blow up of the valve body and now real indication where it could go.

When I took the valve body down, one little screen came out. I think I have read this is only important in the production process and is not needed. Is that correct? I am not really sure where it came from..... and the other little square screen Is number 32, a valve body seloned screen... Do I need that?

The little screen is #32 in the diagram, 301-01-1
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/ke..._161236_vb.pdf


When I took the valve body down a spring and plunger came out it went in this hole... I have seen this is hard to keep in, you need to bend the tangs our a bit on the plunger right? Is there more to this? I was all I could find and I looked quite a while.....



Also when I took the valve body down there were three pieces of the circlip that holds in the overdrive piston/plunger

You can see the parts that are broken off.... I do not think I found all of it... I looked and used a magnet as well.... I took out all the ***** and replaced them as well. So If I did n ot find all the parts of the circlip is that bad? I looked through out the valve body and saw no pieces... actually that is why that little screen is out because I thought it was something that did not belong.... I put the new gaskets and plate back on... should I put that screen back?

a couple of the check ***** was very small...pretty worn out I guess. I replaced then all.


So if anyone knows the placement of that little yellow plunger that would be helpful....
Found this for torque specs and sequence
file:///C:/Users/gcscl/Downloads/4R70-75%20E-W%20Valve%20Body%20Torque%20Sequence.pdf


Also can I reuse the original pan gasket? It is ridged and did not leak at all.... the new one is all folded up and I really dont what to use it.... I could use ultra black.... but If I gotta go back in there that would suck....

I now I am forgetting something but I am fried from the heat and the consumption of nasty ofd trans fluid.

Thanks to anyone that can help!

 

Yellow plunger sitting loose in tranny pan ???

Absolutely. It's designed for multiple use. When you replace the filter, make sure the old o-ring comes out.

 

@glc
Thanks for that! It still looked good and I kept it straight.... I will clean and reinstall.

I am still at a loss as to where that yellow plunger goes....
I decided, since the plate and gaskets are just sitting there, bolts just threaded in, I am going to go over the valve body again and ck for other parts of the circlip. Im putting back that little flat screen too. In all the vids I watched, it seemed to work its way into a valve and stopped it from working correctly.
I also am wondering if the circlip parts are not found in the valve body someplace.... was the overdrive not working for another reason? I am so ignorant of transmissions that Im just not sure... but Ill keep looking and swap out that plunger and circlip and see what happens....
Im heading down early to avoid some heat... Ill ck back to see if anyone chimes in.....

Thanks in advance!

 

Well a little research after being cleaned up and gotten some rest, and coffee.... I found this
https://www.google.com/search?q=ford...id:cvgb_LKwbt4

Here is another video, its better good tips to change filter and gasket, actually keep old gasket as glc said..... shows the yellow plug too....


This is the plug they put in at the factory it goes in the dipstick hole to keep things out until the dip stick is inserted...Funny that was the only place I thought it could go, and I knew it would not let the trans dip stick in if I put it there....
Since this is still in the pan, I am betting that this fluid/filter has not been changed in 227k miles.... so its due!
Glad I stumbled onto that! The mystery is solved!

 

If you had clicked on the link at the top of my previous post.........

​​​​​​​Yellow plunger sitting loose in tranny pan ???

 

@glc
LOL I did not even see it! I was so glad I could use the old gasket... Guess i beat that issue to death after you solved it... Thanks man sorry I missed it... Just read some of it,,,, funny stuff!

So I went over the valve body again... glad I did... found the other end of the circlip in the overdrive valve..... wedged in... when I took it out the valve snapped back closed like it was supposed to.... I kept going, but found no more parts of the circlip,

Got the old circlip out but man so far that has been the worst part of this job.... a coupe pieces broke off.... and I could not get the other ends to pop out to grab, so I drilled a small hole in one end of the clip, stuck my small pick in it, wedged it out put a screw driver behind it and popped it out! The bore was fine... I could have gone with the old plunger put I put a new one in. I was able to get the overdrive band stabbed by the plunger Im pretty sure.... Im not really sure how to ck but I think I got it....


You can see cracks in the old ring


new plunger and circlip installed.


Almost done...

 

Before I can test this, I still have to find and fix a leak at the radiator.... lower trans hose... When I first installed the radiator it was fine.... I thought... but it dripped all over my driveway as I was putting it into the garage.... not sure what the issue is... thinking about just bypassing the radiator cooler part and putting in another trans cooler....