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Old 01-23-2019, 12:48 PM
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2004 f150 xlt 5.4l 3v Timing kit

Just like most 2004 f150 owners, my cam phaser went out. My truck started to shake, run rough, and hardly accelerate. My check engine light came on and started blinking. I could smell fuel and it almost stalled. I had a mechanic read the codes it was throwing and there was a grocery list of them. Final diagnostics, the whole passenger side cylinders were missing and there was a noticeable knock coming for that side phaser. So, its time for a whole timing kit replacement. I have been doing some research online on what kit to buy, and there are soooo many to choose from. I do not what to put in junk, so should I go with all FORD parts? What is everyone else putting in?

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Motorcraft timing parts and a Melling oil pump.
 
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Old 01-23-2019, 01:54 PM
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Motorcraft timing parts and a Melling oil pump.
why a different oil pump?
 
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:53 PM
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The stock oil pump is not powerful enough to provide enough oil pressure at idle to properly operate the phasers.
 
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well it could be all that or just a VCT solenoid $45
 
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Motorcraft timing parts and a Melling oil pump.
Melling high flow oil pump is what you want.

Yes as stated earlier, the stock pump doesn't pump enough oil.
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 12:21 PM
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Could a bad VCT solenoid cause the whole passenger side to be missing? Codes came up that all passenger side was missing, along with a heavy rattle/knock coming from the passenger side cam phaser?
 
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never herd a cam phaser make a loud knocking noise
 
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:57 AM
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Ok...well I purchased the Ford timing kit, along with the new oil pump and VCT solenoids.

My other question is since I hooked it up and found out the whole passenger side cylinders are missing. does that mean my truck is already out of timing? Im thinking that the pin broke in that phaser, causing it to misfire on those cylinders. So, when i go to change out the phasers with all new parts and i install them just like the sit now, will my engine be incorrectly timed? Like i said before it shakes bad and hardly runs, I have a 4 cyclinder f150.
 
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I believe in one of makuloco's videos he explains that the passenger side gets its oil supply last and that is the first side to start making noise.
 
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:26 PM
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yep....I seen that too. But my question is that if I am already missing on all the cylinders on that side, is my motor already out of time? If i install the new timing kit exactly how you are supposed to, will my timing be good, or is it already all messed up?

Lets say my phaser broke, wouldn't the timing be off?
 
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:53 PM
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The video I posted in post #11 tells you how to time the engine. It WILL have to be timed if you remove the chains. Doesn't matter whether it's in time or out of time now.
 
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:38 AM
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I understand that...and sorry for the confusion I have with this. But something is causing all the cylinders on the passenger side to be missing (which is causing the shaking and the loss of power), it must mean that the timing is off. Should I be worried about it being off when I go to replace the timing kit? I mean, if i install the phasers in the exact position they are now and put the chains where they are supposed to be, will everything be ok? Or will it continue to shake and miss because it was before i changed everything?

Once again, sorry if im looking to deep or worrying about nothing, I would just hate to skip something, get it all back together, and nothing is fixed

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