Has anyone swapped out their 2004/2005 front bumper for a 2006-2008?
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Has anyone swapped out their 2004/2005 front bumper for a 2006-2008?
I found a set of 2006-2008 front and rear bumpers on Craigslist that are brand new and I was wondering if anyone has swapped the front onto an 04/05 because I know the brackets are different. If you have done this please chime in with all the required brackets or other parts that are needed or if anything can be reused from the 04/05. I'm liking the circle fog lights over my rectangular ones
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I was going to on my 2004 but never did. Having had both trucks I know that the mounting brackets, hood bump stops, some support brackets for bumper sturdyness, and a new valance ( curves back more than '04/'05 ) are needed. I believe the hardware is thinner than what '04/'05 had also. After that its just the cost of fogs.
As far as the rear goes, they are not interchanging. The '04/'05 uses a double mounting bolt pattern to the frame each side and the '06/'08 uses 3 on each side. Why they did it us beyond me but it is not a direct swap. Bumper skins might be, but the mounting brackets are not.
I had a diagram of all parts needed for the swap but I no longer have it. Ford dealer is my suggestion for the part numbers, then Tasca is my suggestion for making it happen.
As far as the rear goes, they are not interchanging. The '04/'05 uses a double mounting bolt pattern to the frame each side and the '06/'08 uses 3 on each side. Why they did it us beyond me but it is not a direct swap. Bumper skins might be, but the mounting brackets are not.
I had a diagram of all parts needed for the swap but I no longer have it. Ford dealer is my suggestion for the part numbers, then Tasca is my suggestion for making it happen.
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It does add up well. A primed bumper skin aftermarket can cost $200/$300, the brackets, hood bump stops, valance, some say the painted piece below the grill/above bumper needs changed ( I never could confirm this ) and the hardware of nuts and bolts, it may all surpass the price of the primed skin. If the rear bumper skins can be swapped onto the'04/'05 brackets then that will require no hardware.
The perfect time to do this is if you strike a deer.
The perfect time to do this is if you strike a deer.
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Fx4-Michael, to further help you out here are some photos I found from my conversion from my chrome bumper to painted bumper to help you get a better visual of what parts keep the bumper on and how they look. If you really want the look and plan to keep your truck awhile I want to encourage you to go for it, you will love the end result if you prefer the round fog look as much as I do. Also if you are swapping to painted bumpers to replace chrome, I will x2 the encouragement as I love these trucks paint matched.
Looks like the one piece I forgot is the long flat looking piece above the two bulk brackets.
All the clip-nut things on.
Assembled.
For kicks, here are some thumbnail shots of the before/after of my swap. As you can see with my grill and paint matching modifications, painted bumpers was a visual requirement for me.
I actually wonder if anyone has made an '04/'05 valance fit an '06/'08 bumper. The Harley Davidson, FX2, and Roush valances are all interchangeable from 2004/2008 so I imagine it is a direct bolt over. Ford just apparently felt that '06/'08 needs more of a wrapped valance maybe? Going to search that now.
Doesn't help this guy but still a good fact to now know. Thanks.
Looks like the one piece I forgot is the long flat looking piece above the two bulk brackets.
All the clip-nut things on.
Assembled.
For kicks, here are some thumbnail shots of the before/after of my swap. As you can see with my grill and paint matching modifications, painted bumpers was a visual requirement for me.
I actually wonder if anyone has made an '04/'05 valance fit an '06/'08 bumper. The Harley Davidson, FX2, and Roush valances are all interchangeable from 2004/2008 so I imagine it is a direct bolt over. Ford just apparently felt that '06/'08 needs more of a wrapped valance maybe? Going to search that now.
Doesn't help this guy but still a good fact to now know. Thanks.
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Just my personal opinion, but anybody with a 2004-2005 truck with the wonderful rectangular fogs that swaps for the 2006+ bumper with the totally useless round fogs should have their head examined.
And as for why they made so many changes at the back bumper (and Class III hitch) at the same time, it was all about cost reduction.
And as for why they made so many changes at the back bumper (and Class III hitch) at the same time, it was all about cost reduction.
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Naturally the wider fogs do have a better out put, they are freaky looking and don't look good lit up. The '06 bumper appeals to the body better, and a set of HIDs lit up the road like my '04s did, without horrible headlamp glare also.
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Fx4-Michael, to further help you out here are some photos I found from my conversion from my chrome bumper to painted bumper to help you get a better visual of what parts keep the bumper on and how they look. If you really want the look and plan to keep your truck awhile I want to encourage you to go for it, you will love the end result if you prefer the round fog look as much as I do. Also if you are swapping to painted bumpers to replace chrome, I will x2 the encouragement as I love these trucks paint matched.
Looks like the one piece I forgot is the long flat looking piece above the two bulk brackets.
All the clip-nut things on.
Assembled.
For kicks, here are some thumbnail shots of the before/after of my swap. As you can see with my grill and paint matching modifications, painted bumpers was a visual requirement for me.
I actually wonder if anyone has made an '04/'05 valance fit an '06/'08 bumper. The Harley Davidson, FX2, and Roush valances are all interchangeable from 2004/2008 so I imagine it is a direct bolt over. Ford just apparently felt that '06/'08 needs more of a wrapped valance maybe? Going to search that now.
Doesn't help this guy but still a good fact to now know. Thanks.
Looks like the one piece I forgot is the long flat looking piece above the two bulk brackets.
All the clip-nut things on.
Assembled.
For kicks, here are some thumbnail shots of the before/after of my swap. As you can see with my grill and paint matching modifications, painted bumpers was a visual requirement for me.
I actually wonder if anyone has made an '04/'05 valance fit an '06/'08 bumper. The Harley Davidson, FX2, and Roush valances are all interchangeable from 2004/2008 so I imagine it is a direct bolt over. Ford just apparently felt that '06/'08 needs more of a wrapped valance maybe? Going to search that now.
Doesn't help this guy but still a good fact to now know. Thanks.
My Fx4 has the painted bumpers now and they have some rock chips and are starting to rust a little so I was going to bedline them but my dad found the bumpers the other day so I figured I would look into it.
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Again, maybe it's just me, but I buy lights for their light output / ability to put light where I need it, not the way they look when they're on. The '04-'05 rectangular lights may not look as good when they're on, but they put a ton more usable light on the ground. And high powered bulbs don't melt the lens / housing either.
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Darren thank you for the pictures I'm very tempted to do it now. I can get the 4 brackets for $50, fog lights with brackets for $70. Where does that the long piece above the brackets in the picture before you assembled it go?
My Fx4 has the painted bumpers now and they have some rock chips and are starting to rust a little so I was going to bedline them but my dad found the bumpers the other day so I figured I would look into it.
My Fx4 has the painted bumpers now and they have some rock chips and are starting to rust a little so I was going to bedline them but my dad found the bumpers the other day so I figured I would look into it.
As for valance, I am sure you can get the '04/'05 on as all FX2 and Harley Davidson are interchangeable. If not, it could be an opportunity to upgrade.
Again, maybe it's just me, but I buy lights for their light output / ability to put light where I need it, not the way they look when they're on. The '04-'05 rectangular lights may not look as good when they're on, but they put a ton more usable light on the ground. And high powered bulbs don't melt the lens / housing either.
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Yes you are on the right track. Brackets pricing will vary depending where you can get them. The only other real catch will be getting the nuts/bolts. You could go to Fastenal and try doing it all on your own with stainless hardware/nuts/washers, or buy the Motorcraft grade material. Only catch is the Motorcraft stuff may cost more, but it will definitely be more precise. Again, the '04/'05 nuts/bolts were thicker than the '06/'08 stuff when I took my 2004's off and compared the '06 stuff. It could be a $200 project in the end after fog lamps, mounting hardware, and attachment hardware.
As for valance, I am sure you can get the '04/'05 on as all FX2 and Harley Davidson are interchangeable. If not, it could be an opportunity to upgrade.
Valid points no doubt, I'm just one of the few that likes the cleaner look.
As for valance, I am sure you can get the '04/'05 on as all FX2 and Harley Davidson are interchangeable. If not, it could be an opportunity to upgrade.
Valid points no doubt, I'm just one of the few that likes the cleaner look.