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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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Started on my plug change this morning and on the passenger side the front two came out and the back two broke. I removed the third plug back with the puller and I just broke the fourth one right before I had to quit. All in all not a bad job if you have all the tools to do it and also removing the computer is a must.

The one question I do have though is the first plug I pulled broke off a small portion of the porcelain in the cylinder. I put a hose in my shop vac and stuck it down on the plug hole because the hose I had would not fit down into the hole, but who knows if the piece came out or not. What do you all do in this scenario.

The old girl is getting all kinds of love right now, new plugs, oil change, new Bilstiens HDs front and rear, a set of Firestone Ride Rite bags, a new right side exhaust manifold and probably a new ball joints top and bottom. The old girl has 95,000 on her no payment now for several years and still runs and looks great, just felt like it was time for some loving.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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http://www.harborfreight.com/digital...era-67979.html

then if you want return it after you use it, or keep it, they come in hand quite often
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Thanks azmidget91, Hope it works well. I just ordered one on-line from a guy in Bagledeish.
Comes to 97.35 including taxes and shipping from North Dakota !!!
 
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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When I did my plug change I pushed the electrode out of the plug down into the cylinder. That bore scope really did help to find out where it was so I could get it out. I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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I don't know how you guys are using the bore scope listed above because I went to buy one this morning and the camera end is to big to fit down in the plug hole. I went ahead and bought the more expensive one that will fit. I used it but the piston was up and the scope couldn't be turned to look around. I finally found a piece of hose that I taped into my shop vac and got the piece out. So far I have done six plugs and three have broken. I am working a crazy shift this week and taking my to and from preschool so I don't have much time to work on it each day but tomorrow I have a little bit more time and hopefully I can get it done.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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I don't know how you guys are using the bore scope listed above because I went to buy one this morning and the camera end is to big to fit down in the plug hole. I went ahead and bought the more expensive one that will fit. I used it but the piston was up and the scope couldn't be turned to look around. I finally found a piece of hose that I taped into my shop vac and got the piece out. So far I have done six plugs and three have broken. I am working a crazy shift this week and taking my to and from preschool so I don't have much time to work on it each day but tomorrow I have a little bit more time and hopefully I can get it done.
I didn't use that exact bore scope. As a matter of fact, I'm not really sure what brand it was since I borrowed it from the shop my friend works at.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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yep, just posted that one because its cheap, and pretty readily available
 
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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It will not work but the one that costs 199.99 does work, it's the one that I bought. The plugs on these things wouldn't be a bad job if it wasn't for the breaking plugs. Next is the shocks and struts and a drivers side exhaust manifold.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Final tally was 5 good and 3 broken. This is not that hard of a job with the right tools. The only problem I had was the Lisle tool broke the porcelain on two of the plug that fell into the cylinder but I was able to suck them out with the shop vac and a piece of tubing.

Now on to the manifold that started leaking last week and the shocks, struts and air bags. Boy do I have a fun long break to look forward to next week.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Have you guys ever tried using an impact to remove the spark plugs? I did that on my previous 05 with 50k miles on the plugs and it didnt break off.

Just curious.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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I am a auto tech and have done many of these jobs and I am proud to say not one broken one yet....but here is how I do it..give yourself about 3 hours and be very patient...get 1 can of PB blaster and 1 can carb cleaner...remove all coils and fill tubes half way with blaster....crack all plugs loose so the blaster drains into the cylinders...wait a few minutes....spray carb cleaner in all tubes and let it eat the carbon away on the plugs...wait some more....now work the plug out 1 turn out an turn back in (like turning threads).... because the plugs are so long carbon gets on the bottom threads which make it hard to get them out and everyone will muscle them out and then you get stripped threads or broken plugs...... keep doing that while using the carb spray and blaster and they will come out without breaking....again be patient and u will prevail sucessfully....good luck and hope this was helpfull oh and BTW don't skimp get the OE plugs from Ford....they are the best ones.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 12:32 AM
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Have you guys ever tried using an impact to remove the spark plugs? I did that on my previous 05 with 50k miles on the plugs and it didnt break off.

Just curious.
We have a few Ford techs here who have successfully used an impact.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 12:43 AM
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I am a auto tech and have done many of these jobs and I am proud to say not one broken one yet....but here is how I do it..give yourself about 3 hours and be very patient...get 1 can of PB blaster and 1 can carb cleaner...remove all coils and fill tubes half way with blaster....crack all plugs loose so the blaster drains into the cylinders...wait a few minutes....spray carb cleaner in all tubes and let it eat the carbon away on the plugs...wait some more....now work the plug out 1 turn out an turn back in (like turning threads).... because the plugs are so long carbon gets on the bottom threads which make it hard to get them out and everyone will muscle them out and then you get stripped threads or broken plugs...... keep doing that while using the carb spray and blaster and they will come out without breaking....again be patient and u will prevail sucessfully....good luck and hope this was helpfull oh and BTW don't skimp get the OE plugs from Ford....they are the best ones.
I am thinking about doing my own plugs after reading your post. Any other info? Do you heat motor up at all?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 12:52 AM
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no this was on cold engines. patience is my best advice.....i charge customers by the hour for this job and i explain that it may seem expensive at $85.00 an hour but if one breaks then well lets see how many hours i take to remove the broken plug and or the cylinder head if need be and then they understand.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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We have a few Ford techs here who have successfully used an impact.
Thats what I have heard too. I plan to do my current 05 in the same matter. It worked really well and I was done in less than 45 minutes.
 
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