4x4 Won't Engage
#1
4x4 Won't Engage
I did search, and found a bunch of stuff, but still never really found an answer.
I went trail riding tonight and went to climb up a sort of steep bank, 2wd wouldn't cut it so I switched to 4wd and the front tires never would spin or do anything. Got it out and switched back and forth from 2wd to 4wd and the light would come on and I could hear the click but it still wouldn't engage, high or low. Rolling about 10mph I could switch to hi and a loud grinding and pop would come from the front end, but still didn't feel like it was engaged. Is my system just screwed up?
I went trail riding tonight and went to climb up a sort of steep bank, 2wd wouldn't cut it so I switched to 4wd and the front tires never would spin or do anything. Got it out and switched back and forth from 2wd to 4wd and the light would come on and I could hear the click but it still wouldn't engage, high or low. Rolling about 10mph I could switch to hi and a loud grinding and pop would come from the front end, but still didn't feel like it was engaged. Is my system just screwed up?
#4
Try this post first. Sounds like you have IWE problems.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...ore-snows.html
Then go to this post:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...replacing.html
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...ore-snows.html
Then go to this post:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...replacing.html
#5
Are there supposed to be 2 solenoids on the firewall? My truck has 1 with 2 vacuum lines running to it. I pulled the vacuum lines at the wheels and they both have equal vacuum. I also pulled out the solenoid and it looks alright, no corrosion or anything. When I switch to high, I hear a click, and switch back to 2 it clicks again, but the hubs aren't locking it seems like.
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#8
First, you really need to wait a bit longer than 30 seconds for a reply here.
Now that I've got that off my chest, you need to give us some details on your truck. Is it a 2004+ truck? If so, you only have one Solenoid on the firewall. Do you have the Electronic Shift on the Fly (ESOF) switch / system with the rotary dial on the dash or the manual Transfer Case lever?
Your symptoms don't add up either. Assuming you have the ESOF switch / system, you shouldn't get a 4x4 light on the dash if the Transfer Case hasn't shifted. Some of your posts sound like it is shifting, but your IWE's aren't locking up. Did you fully read through the second link and read through the attached .pdf files? The grinding follwed by a clunk is pretty typical of a bad IWE or a bad Solenoid controlling them. Again, read through that second link fully.
Now that I've got that off my chest, you need to give us some details on your truck. Is it a 2004+ truck? If so, you only have one Solenoid on the firewall. Do you have the Electronic Shift on the Fly (ESOF) switch / system with the rotary dial on the dash or the manual Transfer Case lever?
Your symptoms don't add up either. Assuming you have the ESOF switch / system, you shouldn't get a 4x4 light on the dash if the Transfer Case hasn't shifted. Some of your posts sound like it is shifting, but your IWE's aren't locking up. Did you fully read through the second link and read through the attached .pdf files? The grinding follwed by a clunk is pretty typical of a bad IWE or a bad Solenoid controlling them. Again, read through that second link fully.
#9
First, you really need to wait a bit longer than 30 seconds for a reply here.
Now that I've got that off my chest, you need to give us some details on your truck. Is it a 2004+ truck? If so, you only have one Solenoid on the firewall. Do you have the Electronic Shift on the Fly (ESOF) switch / system with the rotary dial on the dash or the manual Transfer Case lever?
Your symptoms don't add up either. Assuming you have the ESOF switch / system, you shouldn't get a 4x4 light on the dash if the Transfer Case hasn't shifted. Some of your posts sound like it is shifting, but your IWE's aren't locking up. Did you fully read through the second link and read through the attached .pdf files? The grinding follwed by a clunk is pretty typical of a bad IWE or a bad Solenoid controlling them. Again, read through that second link fully.
Now that I've got that off my chest, you need to give us some details on your truck. Is it a 2004+ truck? If so, you only have one Solenoid on the firewall. Do you have the Electronic Shift on the Fly (ESOF) switch / system with the rotary dial on the dash or the manual Transfer Case lever?
Your symptoms don't add up either. Assuming you have the ESOF switch / system, you shouldn't get a 4x4 light on the dash if the Transfer Case hasn't shifted. Some of your posts sound like it is shifting, but your IWE's aren't locking up. Did you fully read through the second link and read through the attached .pdf files? The grinding follwed by a clunk is pretty typical of a bad IWE or a bad Solenoid controlling them. Again, read through that second link fully.
Yes its a 2004 truck with ESOF. I have read through the link, and I have read through several other links, and that's why I posted this thread, because I couldn't find the answer I needed. I do not think its the solenoid due the the fact that it had vacuum and then when gone to 4Hi the vacuum was gone. I am not 100% that the transfer case isn't shifting, but I couldn't hear it. The truck 4x4 light is definitely on, and I hear a click and that's about it.
#10
First, it was an hour, and that's all the time I had working on the truck considering I live in an apartment complex. Thanks.
Yes its a 2004 truck with ESOF. I have read through the link, and I have read through several other links, and that's why I posted this thread, because I couldn't find the answer I needed. I do not think its the solenoid due the the fact that it had vacuum and then when gone to 4Hi the vacuum was gone. I am not 100% that the transfer case isn't shifting, but I couldn't hear it. The truck 4x4 light is definitely on, and I hear a click and that's about it.
Yes its a 2004 truck with ESOF. I have read through the link, and I have read through several other links, and that's why I posted this thread, because I couldn't find the answer I needed. I do not think its the solenoid due the the fact that it had vacuum and then when gone to 4Hi the vacuum was gone. I am not 100% that the transfer case isn't shifting, but I couldn't hear it. The truck 4x4 light is definitely on, and I hear a click and that's about it.
As I said before, I believe if you get the light on the dash, your TC is shifting.
#11
Jack the front of the truck up so both wheels are off the ground. Block the back wheels & set the parking brake. Now start the truck in 2WD. Next, shift into 4WD and leave the truck in park. See if you can turn the front wheels. If you can, see if the half shafts are turning. (They should.) If they don't, you have a problem with either the Solenoid (cheap & easy) or the IWE's (more expensive and complicated.) The second link gives you all the information you need to replace either parts.
As I said before, I believe if you get the light on the dash, your TC is shifting.
As I said before, I believe if you get the light on the dash, your TC is shifting.
Thanks for the help, I am pretty frustrated with this truck so far, from popping going uphill, to the back window not rolling up, now this, all within the first month of ownership.
#12
Got ya, if they do turn, then what would the problem be? Also, wouldn't it rule out the solenoid since there is vacuum at the IWE? And it goes away when I put it in 4Hi.
Thanks for the help, I am pretty frustrated with this truck so far, from popping going uphill, to the back window not rolling up, now this, all within the first month of ownership.
Thanks for the help, I am pretty frustrated with this truck so far, from popping going uphill, to the back window not rolling up, now this, all within the first month of ownership.
The biggest problem with the system seems to be solenoids going bad. This leads to partial vacuum going to the IWEs - tearing them up. Once they're torn up - even if it was just the solenoid that caused it - you have to replace them - and the solenoid of course.
#14
Remember though, if the solenoid was bad and your IWE's ground for a while, they're probably toast. If they need replacing, you can still do it yourself with TNF150's instructions. I have access to a shop with a lift and had never done the job before. We were done with both sides in less than an hour.