Problem previously not seen.
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Does that Edge EVO with the PHP custom tunes change any shift points, timings or line pressures with that tranny? How about torque converter lockup points?
If that is the case, see what happens if you revert the truck back to the factory settings. If it corrects it, I would talk to Edge or PHP immediately about getting a new "custom" tune done.
Does that Edge EVO with the PHP custom tunes change any shift points, timings or line pressures with that tranny? How about torque converter lockup points?
If that is the case, see what happens if you revert the truck back to the factory settings. If it corrects it, I would talk to Edge or PHP immediately about getting a new "custom" tune done.
Sorry if i missed it, but did you try return to stock & reflash. (Completely lear out the KAM with a hard reset).
Does this also occur while in stock tune?
There is the remote possibility of the PCM itself going bad, or connections to it. For example, the drivers used to pulse the Cops are internal, draw huge amounts of current (albeit very briefly), and have a number of independent grounds in the PCM harness. Any problems / degradation could surface as the duty cycle goes up (more average load on the driver circuits, hence more potential voltage drop). I would think the PCM would trap these things, but perhaps not.
Just a thought. One thing at a time, Jim.
Good luck.
Does this also occur while in stock tune?
There is the remote possibility of the PCM itself going bad, or connections to it. For example, the drivers used to pulse the Cops are internal, draw huge amounts of current (albeit very briefly), and have a number of independent grounds in the PCM harness. Any problems / degradation could surface as the duty cycle goes up (more average load on the driver circuits, hence more potential voltage drop). I would think the PCM would trap these things, but perhaps not.
Just a thought. One thing at a time, Jim.
Good luck.
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Nobody is saying positively it is the tuner but the name of the post was "Problem not seen."
I have seen this problem.
It was a combination of a weak battery and tuner.
Stock, the weak battery didn't effect performance.
I have seen this problem.
It was a combination of a weak battery and tuner.
Stock, the weak battery didn't effect performance.
#66
Unless it has gone defective, the battery should be strong, less than 2 years old and gets a steady 14.4 volts.
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All im saying is that I have seen a tuner in "tune mode" have these same symptoms that were not there in "stock mode"...bucking, surging...bogging down at WOT after downshift. Let off and acceleration was smooth.
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The tuner can exaggerate an existing fuel or engine problem, which is not a problem at all with the custom tune. Stock tuning could cover up that problem with the conservative stock tuning.
I'm thinking he got some bad gas.
#70
Sorry - I do not agree that a stock tune can mask a legitimate, fundamental underlying issue in the "suck-bang-blow" cycle. There are far more similarities than differences even between stock and 87 perf - the engine still runs with very narrowly defined parameters - can't change the physics.
One key here is the symptoms's attributes - in this case, the allegeded 'R&B'. Bad fuel does not manifest itself with a rythmic loss of power, at only certain rpm's loads. BJ, are you not filling up at the same place typicaly - I know you are choosy with fuel quality. Only one occurrance in 36,000 miles? Same supplier? Hmmm.
Jest don' sit right wit me, is awl... y'all
Yer not usin' Seafoam on the sly, are ya? Would you even remember?
Good thread, gentlemen.
#71
It can happen, even if you don't agree ya dumb Canook.
When I still had the defective injectors in my truck I would get a slight ping from time to time on the 87 perf tune that wouldn't happen on the stock tune. The stock tune masked the issue with my injectors. With the new injectors and short block the same tune runs without any pinging.
When I still had the defective injectors in my truck I would get a slight ping from time to time on the 87 perf tune that wouldn't happen on the stock tune. The stock tune masked the issue with my injectors. With the new injectors and short block the same tune runs without any pinging.
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It was really bad when I bought the truck back in '04, a PCM relash fixed it (along with a tranny downshift problem, or lack of actually). It's recently started to come back although nowhere near as bad as when it was new and not often enough for me to worry about it. My surging happens with stock tune so I doubt a programmer is to blame.
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Well, since I'm not "over the hill" yet, that virtually eliminates that problem!
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