Plan and simple, the STS turbos suck ..

Hellion is a much better product.

 

simple search on ebay

turbo...........$300
bov..............$100
intercooler....$200

and that leaves $400 for misc tubing, flanges, clamps, spark plugs, and injectors

dyno tuning is usually around $300, granted that you have a tuner, if not you can pick one up as cheap as $100

and like i said that was just a quick search and not the cheapest ones i saw, if you search around you can get a better deal and be even cheaper........

 

Simple search from a simple mind..

 

i see you have moved on from the actual subject to personal insults being that you know i am right.......

 

Good luck putting together a functional turbo for that price.

Mounting a turbo under a truck that is going to be taken off road is just stupid no matter how you want to spin it. I don't care if you put a snorkle or whatever on it.

IMO if you want low end torque and HP(which is where our ****ional RPM range is) a root style blower is the way to go on a gas motor.

 

What are you right about ??????

This dream $1300 turbo system that you have talked about for over 2 years.?

 

that it is possible to build a turbo setup for fairly cheap, im not saying its going to have the best stuff there is but its possible

 

saying a roots style blower is the the only way to build lowend tq is bs-my 89 20th anniversarry ta indy pace car with the gnx 3.8l turbo v6 makes gobs of tq from 2000 rpms on up, fyi

 

like i mentioned in post #16-his numbers speak for them selves-ill get his dyno sheets to show ya his tq from down low-phenominal for a 4x4 hemi-phil

 

the amount of misinformation in this thread is quite entertaining. i think ill just sit back and keep reading

 

I didn't say it was the only way. Just think its the best way. But thanx for the "bs" comment.

 

The numbers provided by both manufacturers.

Look at the two graphs:

STS:



Whipple:



Fairly typical torque curves. The turbo tq below 2500 rpms is non-existant. The whipple runs at a safe 8 PSI.

Turbo kits aren't necessarily cheaper even if you did it yourself. Sure, the turbos are cheap, but so are straight up blowers without all the hardware. All of all the plumbing and fabrication needed to get a turbo in there to begin with costs money.

 

The low end torque we're referring to is from idle to 2500 rpms.

That's what you really need for a hefty truck like the F-150: pure low end torque. It's really not at all practical to use turbos on these motors without dropping compression and installing forged internals.

You could go with two smaller turbos like the old 300z's to get better low end torque and higher end HP, but the kits get expensive really quick.

 

numbers provided by both manufacturers.
is the key point

 

Stealthy??? I think not. What is stealthy about it? You still have the huge shiney metal tube with pop-off valve running into the intake...anybody that would recognize an underhood Turbo kit would know what that was. SECOND...maybe not so much in the F150 configuration but much much more so in the F-Bodies it is MUCH more noticible than a under hood unit. All you have to do is pull up behind one and see an aircleaner sticking out of where the drives side tailpipe should be and you know it has one on it. Now if it was an underhood unit you wouldnt know unless you popped the hood...and if you know anything about street racing you never pop your hood!

The only advantage to this set up is COST. Its cheaper because you dont have to replace the exhaust system or even more so replace the manifolds. And in its basic configuration it can be easily adapted to a ton of different vehilcles. This system is basicaly like installking a cat back exhaust. I am not knocking it...but realize what it is...a poor man's turbo set up.