Turbo Kit
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From: North Huntingdon,Pa.
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Originally Posted by FX4 Matt
I dont think there gonna sell to well, since theres a few blowers out for our truck why buy a turbo? I think I would out run a trubo truck 
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From: Michigan
Originally Posted by Bartak1
Your right, the stealth part of it and lower underhood temps is a plus.
For a pavement pounder in good weather conditions a turbo mounted under the vehicle would be pretty cool. Im pretty sure I would have that thing ripped of laying somewhere in a field within a week though
You have to admit that all the elements splashing up onto the turbo and what not isnt doing it any good though.
For a pavement pounder in good weather conditions a turbo mounted under the vehicle would be pretty cool. Im pretty sure I would have that thing ripped of laying somewhere in a field within a week though
You have to admit that all the elements splashing up onto the turbo and what not isnt doing it any good though.
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From: Greenwood, MS / Oceanside, CA
I emailed them about going off road as well. They sent me a video of a Tacoma with their kit riding through some water. They guy said that all truck kits come with a snorkle and that it could go "off road for sure". I'm still not too sure about it though.
I don't think you have to worry about it ripping off like some people have mentioned, unless your muffler has ripped off in the past?
I just worry about water, mud, and sand.
I don't think you have to worry about it ripping off like some people have mentioned, unless your muffler has ripped off in the past?
I just worry about water, mud, and sand.
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From: Mandeville, La
Originally Posted by codewhitfield
I emailed them about going off road as well. They sent me a video of a Tacoma with their kit riding through some water. They guy said that all truck kits come with a snorkle and that it could go "off road for sure". I'm still not too sure about it though.
I don't think you have to worry about it ripping off like some people have mentioned, unless your muffler has ripped off in the past? I just worry about water, mud, and sand.
I don't think you have to worry about it ripping off like some people have mentioned, unless your muffler has ripped off in the past?
I just worry about water, mud, and sand.
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From: San Antonio, TX
http://www.ststurbo.com/z71_videos
http://www.ststurbo.com/tacoma_sound_and_video
Watch some of the vidoes, particularly the Z71 in the tunnel and the Taco out on the beach. STS has been around for a while and have a pretty die hard following.
http://www.ststurbo.com/tacoma_sound_and_video
Watch some of the vidoes, particularly the Z71 in the tunnel and the Taco out on the beach. STS has been around for a while and have a pretty die hard following.
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"The introductory price is only $5,150.00 for a limited time. It will soon be priced out at MSRP which may near the $7k mark."
That is what I was told via email about a week ago. Plus, those dyno numbers might be off that lifted F150 in the pictures they show. I asked and they ignored that question.
That is what I was told via email about a week ago. Plus, those dyno numbers might be off that lifted F150 in the pictures they show. I asked and they ignored that question.
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You'll get more HP and TQ from a Whipple.
However, I'm looking at this to run in combination with the RoushCharger, so it should pan out to be a viable more efficien way to produce high end HP and low end torque.
However, I'm looking at this to run in combination with the RoushCharger, so it should pan out to be a viable more efficien way to produce high end HP and low end torque.
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[QUOTE=RoushF150]You'll get more HP and TQ from a Whipple.[QUOTE]
I disagre. The reasons that you see turbo on diesels is because the turbo is more effiecient and it responds to load better.
The 6.0 liter diesel is only .6 liters bigger than our 5.4 and the horse power and torque is way over what we have with less rpm range than our gassers.
I understand that diesel has more btu and more resistance to pinging, but there is a reason you dont see s/c diesels from the big 3. Turbo is better for power and torque. Turbo is more expensive and harder to tune.
I definately no expert, but I dont see any experienced tuner or racer saying otherwise.
I disagre. The reasons that you see turbo on diesels is because the turbo is more effiecient and it responds to load better.
The 6.0 liter diesel is only .6 liters bigger than our 5.4 and the horse power and torque is way over what we have with less rpm range than our gassers.
I understand that diesel has more btu and more resistance to pinging, but there is a reason you dont see s/c diesels from the big 3. Turbo is better for power and torque. Turbo is more expensive and harder to tune.
I definately no expert, but I dont see any experienced tuner or racer saying otherwise.
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From: Cape Cod, Ma
Originally Posted by openclasspro#11
maybe a turbo f150 matt-my buddy has a 03 quad cab 4x4 hemi with the sts and longtubes and tuning-damn near 500 rwhp and 500 rwtq-and i don't think your truck can match his 13.0 times either-at least yours is a ford
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[QUOTE=hllon4whls][QUOTE=RoushF150]You'll get more HP and TQ from a Whipple.
I disagre. The reasons that you see turbo on diesels is because the turbo is more effiecient and it responds to load better.
The 6.0 liter diesel is only .6 liters bigger than our 5.4 and the horse power and torque is way over what we have with less rpm range than our gassers.
I understand that diesel has more btu and more resistance to pinging, but there is a reason you dont see s/c diesels from the big 3. Turbo is better for power and torque. Turbo is more expensive and harder to tune.
I definately no expert, but I dont see any experienced tuner or racer saying otherwise.
Turbo's on diesels are running 20+ PSI because they don't suffer the boost affects of N/A motors. It's the PSI that gets you on these 5.4 engines. The STS runs 9 PSI to achieve numbers close to a Roushcharger . The Whipple runs 8 PSI to achieve numbers WAY above that, including low, low end torque that the STS kit clearly lacks.
Once you head over 10 psi with the compression ratios of the Triton, you're really really pushing your luck short of tearing down the block. Now, if you do rebuild the motor with lower compression and forged internals, the STS kit IS the only way to go.
I disagre. The reasons that you see turbo on diesels is because the turbo is more effiecient and it responds to load better.
The 6.0 liter diesel is only .6 liters bigger than our 5.4 and the horse power and torque is way over what we have with less rpm range than our gassers.
I understand that diesel has more btu and more resistance to pinging, but there is a reason you dont see s/c diesels from the big 3. Turbo is better for power and torque. Turbo is more expensive and harder to tune.
I definately no expert, but I dont see any experienced tuner or racer saying otherwise.
Once you head over 10 psi with the compression ratios of the Triton, you're really really pushing your luck short of tearing down the block. Now, if you do rebuild the motor with lower compression and forged internals, the STS kit IS the only way to go.
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[QUOTE=RoushF150][QUOTE=hllon4whls]
those are a few good theorys but your missing the key element as are most others, its volume comparing psi between s/c and turbos are like apples and oranges, some s/c's make more power on less psi then other s/c's because of the volume is greater, now the stock sts kit is running 9 psi and making less power then the whipple at 8 psi because the whipple has a greater volume of air going in, now like sts said this is setup to be safe for your engine, you could put a bigger turbo on and run 5 psi and make way more then a whipple, so the sts is pleanty capable of making more power then the whipple but for now sts is building them safely
o and btw a turbo is waaaaaayyyy cheaper then a s/c if you do the work yourself, its the work going into engineering the kit and the very sparse manufacturers of kits that raises the prices past a s/c, you could easily build a turbo kit for under a grand, then couple hundred for dyno tuning
Originally Posted by RoushF150
You'll get more HP and TQ from a Whipple.
Turbo's on diesels are running 20+ PSI because they don't suffer the boost affects of N/A motors. It's the PSI that gets you on these 5.4 engines. The STS runs 9 PSI to achieve numbers close to a Roushcharger . The Whipple runs 8 PSI to achieve numbers WAY above that, including low, low end torque that the STS kit clearly lacks.
Once you head over 10 psi with the compression ratios of the Triton, you're really really pushing your luck short of tearing down the block. Now, if you do rebuild the motor with lower compression and forged internals, the STS kit IS the only way to go.
Turbo's on diesels are running 20+ PSI because they don't suffer the boost affects of N/A motors. It's the PSI that gets you on these 5.4 engines. The STS runs 9 PSI to achieve numbers close to a Roushcharger . The Whipple runs 8 PSI to achieve numbers WAY above that, including low, low end torque that the STS kit clearly lacks.
Once you head over 10 psi with the compression ratios of the Triton, you're really really pushing your luck short of tearing down the block. Now, if you do rebuild the motor with lower compression and forged internals, the STS kit IS the only way to go.
those are a few good theorys but your missing the key element as are most others, its volume comparing psi between s/c and turbos are like apples and oranges, some s/c's make more power on less psi then other s/c's because of the volume is greater, now the stock sts kit is running 9 psi and making less power then the whipple at 8 psi because the whipple has a greater volume of air going in, now like sts said this is setup to be safe for your engine, you could put a bigger turbo on and run 5 psi and make way more then a whipple, so the sts is pleanty capable of making more power then the whipple but for now sts is building them safely
o and btw a turbo is waaaaaayyyy cheaper then a s/c if you do the work yourself, its the work going into engineering the kit and the very sparse manufacturers of kits that raises the prices past a s/c, you could easily build a turbo kit for under a grand, then couple hundred for dyno tuning
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Originally Posted by RoushF150
You'll get more HP and TQ from a Whipple.
The STS runs 9 PSI to achieve numbers close to a Roushcharger .
The Whipple runs 8 PSI to achieve numbers WAY above that, including low, low end torque that the STS kit clearly lacks.
The STS runs 9 PSI to achieve numbers close to a Roushcharger .
The Whipple runs 8 PSI to achieve numbers WAY above that, including low, low end torque that the STS kit clearly lacks.
Where and how are you getting these numbers?
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[QUOTE=azmidget91][QUOTE=RoushF150]
those are a few good theorys but your missing the key element as are most others, its volume comparing psi between s/c and turbos are like apples and oranges, some s/c's make more power on less psi then other s/c's because of the volume is greater, now the stock sts kit is running 9 psi and making less power then the whipple at 8 psi because the whipple has a greater volume of air going in, now like sts said this is setup to be safe for your engine, you could put a bigger turbo on and run 5 psi and make way more then a whipple, so the sts is pleanty capable of making more power then the whipple but for now sts is building them safely
o and btw a turbo is waaaaaayyyy cheaper then a s/c if you do the work yourself, its the work going into engineering the kit and the very sparse manufacturers of kits that raises the prices past a s/c, you could easily build a turbo kit for under a grand, then couple hundred for dyno tuning
Originally Posted by hllon4whls
those are a few good theorys but your missing the key element as are most others, its volume comparing psi between s/c and turbos are like apples and oranges, some s/c's make more power on less psi then other s/c's because of the volume is greater, now the stock sts kit is running 9 psi and making less power then the whipple at 8 psi because the whipple has a greater volume of air going in, now like sts said this is setup to be safe for your engine, you could put a bigger turbo on and run 5 psi and make way more then a whipple, so the sts is pleanty capable of making more power then the whipple but for now sts is building them safely
o and btw a turbo is waaaaaayyyy cheaper then a s/c if you do the work yourself, its the work going into engineering the kit and the very sparse manufacturers of kits that raises the prices past a s/c, you could easily build a turbo kit for under a grand, then couple hundred for dyno tuning