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"Top Tier" gasoline might help with spark plug removal on 5.4

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Old 12-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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I've used top tier gas before, and I notice my 4.2l doesn't like it. But the 5.4l might.. who knows.

that defies all logic.
 
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Old 12-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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There must be something with Shell in NJ. About 4-5 weeks ago I started using Shell and my mileage went down to about 12.4MPG. Went back to using the gasoline from the Military base and its back up to the 13's.
I now get mine from an Indian Nation (Oneida's in Verona, NY), and my truck runs great and gets great gas mileage. Whenever I get name brand gas, it makes my truck run like crap and I get nasty gas mileage.
 
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Those of you who see varying mpg numbers depending upon brand may be seeing the impact of fuels spiked with ethanol. It's fairly common now to see at least 10% ethanol, but since it's added at the bulk plant, just prior to retail delivery, the actual concentration could vary considerably. And, it's usually totally hidden from the consumer. A general rule of thumb, as I understand it, is: the greater percentage of ethanol, the lower the mpg.

There are those who are much more knowledgable than I who can perhaps add to my comments, or correct me where I am wrong.

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Old 12-25-2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by svt2205
Is there really such a thing at Top-Tier Gas? Sounds like a nice way to market certain gas companies.

I learned this from a friend who runs a few gas stations. Ever notice that very few, if any, gas companies have their own gas tankers these days? Check out the different stations a tanker goes to. I've personally seen 1 tanker off load gas at 2 different stations, that were different brands.

Something to think about....
I have a friend who drove a tanker and he delivered gas to several different stations and verified it was all the same thing. We're about 100 miles from the tank farm and his gas is in about half the stations in town.
 
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:23 PM
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The gas may be the same, but the addatives used at certain top tier stations are different than that used at cheapo stations, hence the difference.
 
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:20 PM
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Here is my recent observations using Shell:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=kspencer
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:23 AM
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Additives package.... I've heard that one too.

Think about it. We all cry foul about many of the different additives (snake oil) that are out there. Most just lighten your wallet. But since the tanker driver (no offense towards any of these guys) adds an "additive package" all is now good?????

No way. There will be wide variations in the mix from tank to tank or station to station.

But if you're happy with what you're getting, none of this matters. But don't expect a certain fuel to do much to reduce your 5.4-3V spark plug removal risks.
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Before I moved from my past place my neighbor was/is a gas tanker driver.He said he fills up at the port and delivers to different named stations that are on his delivery list for that day.He says the station adds it detergent package to the gas after he unloads it.
I can say, without a doubt, at least from years past since it has been many years since I have worked in one, but gas stations do NOT add their own detergents to the fuel after delivery.

In this day and age with franchise stations being freer to purchase fuel from whatever jobber they can get the lowest cost from, it would not shock me at all to see a Valero tanker dropping gas at a Shell station, or vice versa... So when you grab that nozzle at your neighborhood Shell station at $.10 a gallon higher for branding and advertising, are you really getting Shell gas? (Or Chevron, or Texaco, or Sunoco, or whatever...)
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:16 PM
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Urban legend. The gasses are different from brand to brand. That explains why I get best mileage from one station to another.

I buy from two shell stations 99% of the time and the mileage is identical. When I have to buy from any other station the mileage drops significantly. How could the gasses be the same? Maybe on the lowest octane with the least or no addatives, but not with the highest octane with the most addatives.
 
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Double post. noobs.
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:19 PM
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The top companies do manufacture thier own fuel/additive packages. Im sure all the corner stores, grocery store gas stations and mom and pop places share a generic gas, but the name brand Shell, Chevron, def make thier own gas
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:54 PM
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QuikTrip for me most of the time and Shell when I can't find QT here in Oklahoma.
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:57 PM
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Run premium gas. Problem solved.

Wait, I can't run anything but premium gas.
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:49 PM
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i always run premium gas, but how's valero gas?? thats all i put in my truck..
 
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TonkaTruck33
i always run premium gas, but how's valero gas?? thats all i put in my truck..
Valero is its own brand, actually pretty decent IMO. They have some refineries here in Texas so we have them in about every corner
 


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