2007 5.4L Beware!!
Originally Posted by mkruss
My build date was 04/07. I took delivery the end of 05/07.
I got an oil change yesterday. The service department never heard of this problem. They checked the computer. No TSB. No recall. No nothing about it. Might be a few isolated engines. Who knows?
I'm on my 7th F-150 including a March build 2007. Never had any engine problems.
I'm on my 7th F-150 including a March build 2007. Never had any engine problems.
Originally Posted by Tbird69
Here we go, another round of paranoia because of one person's bad luck. Maybe this "issue" will replace the threads about the spark plug problem.

Originally Posted by osbornk
It would be a nice switch. Early on, we had to go through the stage when it seemed everybody had bad clutch packs, then rear end whines, then nibble and on and on until the current problem of spark plugs. Seems a little like the news. They only seem to be able to focus on one thing at a time.
Now they have a truck they can't drive and are facing a huge repair bill if they can't do it themselves. The best part is they want Ford to foot the bill. Ford's service guideline for the plugs is to pull, inspect and clean at about 50K and replace at 100K. The only other time Ford recommends pulling the plugs is if the engine develops a miss or related issue. People follow just about every other service interval Ford has without question but when it comes to the spark plugs everyone knows better then the company that designed the engine.
Amen Brother!
Everybody makes this spark plug issue from people who just bought a new truck to people who probably don't know the proper procedure to pull these plugs......& when they break them the cry to FORD, give me a break.......
I'm not touching my plugs till 50K.........to inspect & replace...........
There was a thread around here somewhere saying that the engines that grenade at very low miles where built in mexico. Ford has several suppliers and the bad parts may have just been at the mexico plant... anyways, that is the jist of the problem as said on the forums. I went right out and checked where mine was built!! Ont. for me... on the drivers side cam cover it says where manufactured
Originally Posted by Quintin
There are a handful of 2007 5.4 3Vs out there with bad thrust bearings. Something like less than 1000 units I think.
-- Mike --
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
You wouldn't be pissed if you bought a truck that doesn't work? That's why America is goin down the tubes, because we accept half-assed work.
That's why Buicks in Japan (I believe that is the right combination) are better than USA Buicks. The Japanese demand higher quality.
Also, why would you give someone "props" for owning up to their mistake? If they build a working vehicle from the get go I can see giving praise for them having built a good vehicle. For them having built a poor quality vehicle I can see being annoyed.
p.s. Mike, change your spark plugs cause the stock ones seize up in their and Ford WON'T fix that.
That's why Buicks in Japan (I believe that is the right combination) are better than USA Buicks. The Japanese demand higher quality.
Also, why would you give someone "props" for owning up to their mistake? If they build a working vehicle from the get go I can see giving praise for them having built a good vehicle. For them having built a poor quality vehicle I can see being annoyed.
p.s. Mike, change your spark plugs cause the stock ones seize up in their and Ford WON'T fix that.
As for the spark plug thing, read my above post on this one.
I can see both sides to the argument. I guess that things happen and Ford is putting a new motor in the thing. Remember last year Toyota surpassed GM in total recalls for the year. Its a mechanical device and hopefully someday they will beable to make a perfect vehicle.
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
You wouldn't be pissed if you bought a truck that doesn't work? That's why America is goin down the tubes, because we accept half-assed work.
That's why Buicks in Japan (I believe that is the right combination) are better than USA Buicks. The Japanese demand higher quality.
Also, why would you give someone "props" for owning up to their mistake? If they build a working vehicle from the get go I can see giving praise for them having built a good vehicle. For them having built a poor quality vehicle I can see being annoyed.
p.s. Mike, change your spark plugs cause the stock ones seize up in their and Ford WON'T fix that.
That's why Buicks in Japan (I believe that is the right combination) are better than USA Buicks. The Japanese demand higher quality.
Also, why would you give someone "props" for owning up to their mistake? If they build a working vehicle from the get go I can see giving praise for them having built a good vehicle. For them having built a poor quality vehicle I can see being annoyed.
p.s. Mike, change your spark plugs cause the stock ones seize up in their and Ford WON'T fix that.
Would I get pissed? Not if the response has been what we've been told Ford has committed to do.
Get pissed man. It makes all the difference. Do it, get pissed. This whole thrust bearing thing. America is falling apart. I think the sky is falling. Oh no.......
Last edited by TNC; Aug 12, 2007 at 04:23 PM.
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Testing...that's how they should know. If you do the proper R&D before the truck hits the line then they don't have to spend the money to fix something they didn't do right the first time.
TNC, I'm just saying that it is understandable to be PO'D when you buy a truck that doesn't work correctly. Even if they do fix it, that's no reason to give extra props, had the truck been perfect from square 1 it'd be an GREAT reason for props.
Good customer service is good to have, but you shouldn't need it.
TNC, I'm just saying that it is understandable to be PO'D when you buy a truck that doesn't work correctly. Even if they do fix it, that's no reason to give extra props, had the truck been perfect from square 1 it'd be an GREAT reason for props.
Good customer service is good to have, but you shouldn't need it.
Quintin has already said there's only about 1000 or so engines affected by this. Hardly something to be concerned about.As for the rest of your post, the level of ignorance leaves me speechless.
Testing every part is not feasible. In large scale production, almost every manufacturer uses SPC. I would be amazed if Ford, GM, Dodge, Toyota, and on and on was not using SPC. SPC is statistical process controls. Using this tool and others you only test samples of product based on statistics and chart the results. The idea is that you can eventually predict failures and see trends before they make it even on to the production floor. Most of these guys will adhere to 6 sigma quality standards as well. Since they're certainly ISO certified, they would also have to have every single last vendor ISO certified. This means that the vendor is testing their parts to a spec. agreed upon between them and Ford, and getting periodic audits from outside sources. Not only that, when the parts that failed show up they will have to do all kinds of corrective actions on top of whatever punitive measures Ford takes against them. There is way more to all of this than I've written. Quality is a huge undertaking. When they agree to replace the engine, no questions asked, it's top notch customer service in my book. Try to understand what a HUGE operation any of these auto manufacturers are running. It's a monumental task to perform the way they do and constantly improve. Top that off with R&D and the need to keep your products fresh. It never stops........
Lastly, if the trucks were perfect, square one, as was said, nobody would say anything. It's pretty much human nature. Good news dies fast. Bad news travels and gets bigger and bigger. If you don't think so, look at the posts on here. We all like these trucks, but how many positive comments are there? When things go right, everyone says " It's supposed to work that way". I say give 'em credit for doing the right thing.
Lastly, if the trucks were perfect, square one, as was said, nobody would say anything. It's pretty much human nature. Good news dies fast. Bad news travels and gets bigger and bigger. If you don't think so, look at the posts on here. We all like these trucks, but how many positive comments are there? When things go right, everyone says " It's supposed to work that way". I say give 'em credit for doing the right thing.
Last edited by TNC; Aug 12, 2007 at 06:53 PM.
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Testing...that's how they should know. If you do the proper R&D before the truck hits the line then they don't have to spend the money to fix something they didn't do right the first time.



