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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Volant Intake, Restrictive?

Hey every one,

I have asked a couple of people this. So i figured i would bring it to the boards. But why do people claim the volant is so restrictive on the higher RPMS and "lays down at 4K RPMS". If some one can help me out with a explanation or dyno graphs to show that it did, that would help me.



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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by weazel
Hey every one,

I have asked a couple of people this. So i figured i would bring it to the boards. But why do people claim the volant is so restrictive on the higher RPMS and "lays down at 4K RPMS". If some one can help me out with a explanation or dyno graphs to show that it did, that would help me.

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Daniel
Who's claimed this?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Grubrunner
Who's claimed this?
Hold on a sec. let me find some of the post.... brb lol


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Here we go, heres an example im talkin about:

Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hmmm... must not have measured any IAT's lately, since what you just posted is BS at any reasonable speed.

Go do some data collection instead of daydreaming, then post back, okay?

Also - measured / established / witnessed / irrefutable fact: the Volant LIES DOWN above 4,000 rpm. Period. Being in denial changes this fact not a whit.

I remember you, buckwheat - everything is different in Florida, where TB spacers really work and you dyno @ 270rwhp LOL!

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=272993

So good to see you haven't learned a thing since then.
Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
The Volant chokes in upper RPMs.

not trying to start issues with any one, just want to learn what causes this.. there are countless discussions about this that i found today, just cant recall where i found them now...
 

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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well when i was testing the outlaw intake....they used my truck as a test vehicle for the intake that a few people have. well he tested the volant on my truck first....and from what i remember, it did kinda of level off at the higher rpms on the dyno. i remember watching the lid flex like it was getting sucked down. he removed the lid and it helped out a lot..but that was with the hood open.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by weazel
Hold on a sec. let me find some of the post.... brb lol


EDIT


Here we go, heres an example im talkin about:






not trying to start issues with any one, just want to learn what causes this.. there are countless discussions about this that i found today, just cant recall where i found them now...

Hi.

Here's a few more:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=17

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=21

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=10

https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...69&postcount=8

.... just a sample. There are more like this. Bottom line - >4,000 rpm, it chokes.

Not only that, and more importantly, it requires a MAF TF correction.

Call TP and confirm if you wish.

Cheers
Bubba
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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i just picked up a Green filter element at carlisle. the actual element was 2" longer than the stock volant element. for the 300 mile trip home, up and down hills and all, and in traffic, I watched the MAF and IAT readings and noticed a difference. may not be an incredible difference, but i can tell it helped.

i have heard running with the cover off helps with flow, but without the "closed box" you're suckin in hot engine compartment air.

i was just browsing through the posts above about the closed box intake. instead having a company that is selling the product write a review on it, why not have a non bias opinion of it? i mean, essentially, that would yield the best results. i dunno, just makes sense to me...
 

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Had mine for 2 years and am still very happy with it. TP doesn't sell them, I wonder why he doesn't recommend them? Huh? He sells AF1, therefore he recommends them. He's not stupid.

I am not saying it is the best or worst. IDK if anyone has done a real world comparison or dyno comparing any of them.

I have even seen TP in action and they definitely know there stuff but it is tough for me to just accept someone's word that the product they sell is the best period.

 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlackFX4
Had mine for 2 years and am still very happy with it. TP doesn't sell them, I wonder why he doesn't recommend them? Huh? He sells AF1, therefore he recommends them. He's not stupid.

I am not saying it is the best or worst. IDK if anyone has done a real world comparison or dyno comparing any of them.

I have even seen TP in action and they definitely know there stuff but it is tough for me to just accept someone's word that the product they sell is the best period.

Originally Posted by Superchips_Distributor
... Yes, it's a neat looking kit and well made, I DO agree with you there - but no, it's not a good performer compared to the AF1. If it were, we'd be recommending the Volant instead - it's not, so we don't.

It's very simple - we sell what works best, not what someone thinks or what some manufacturer claims - just like all the claims of those plastic intake kits delivering colder IAT"s - well, we datalogged that too on many occasions, as well as doing hour-long idle in gear heat-soak tests, dyno testing, track testing, you name it - and the 3.25" AF1 clearly shows the lead there - if something else did, we'd be telling everyone that and recommending something else.
No brand loyalty, or BS. TP can sell whatever he wants - he chooses to sell what actuually works - and they do exhaustive testing to determine that.

Again - just call them. No strings.

 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Grubrunner

If im not mistaken, i read in another thread you did a experiment with the volant to a S&B Intake, are from what i read you like the S&B better, are you still running that intake. Now if it was you. Was it a "Wow there is a difference" or "I think i feel a difference"


And to others does any one know what cause the volant to act that why? Is it poor Tube design? or a boxed filter? or.....

And if this question can be answer will switching to another intake yield me power i can actually feel?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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I love my S&B. .
 
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
I love my S&B. .

lol Great answer...




still doesnt help me.... love your input tho... lol
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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Grubrunner

If im not mistaken, i read in another thread you did a experiment with the volant to a S&B Intake, are from what i read you like the S&B better, are you still running that intake. Now if it was you. Was it a "Wow there is a difference" or "I think i feel a difference"
I've never run the Volant on this truck but have run Volant in the past on two vehicles [2000 Scab Lariat 5.4L was one].

I still have the S&B on this truck [HERE]. Comparing the Volant on the 2000 Scab and the S&B on this vehicle [albeit no the fairest of comparisons]. I have to say that in, just about every way, the S&B is significantly better. I did prefer the fit-n-finish [cosmetics] of the Volant somewhat better, but performance wise, the S&B is a lot more noticable.

For the record, I never experienced the restriction in the higher revs that some people here claim they have with their Volant.

Unlike Thumper, I'm not in love with my S&B... but I do like it very much.

 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Grubrunner
I've never run the Volant on this truck but have run Volant in the past on two vehicles [2000 Scab Lariat 5.4L was one].

I still have the S&B on this truck [HERE]. Comparing the Volant on the 2000 Scab and the S&B on this vehicle [albeit no the fairest of comparisons]. I have to say that in, just about every way, the S&B is significantly better. I did prefer the fit-n-finish [cosmetics] of the Volant somewhat better, but performance wise, the S&B is a lot more noticable.

For the record, I never experienced the restriction in the higher revs that some people here claim they have with their Volant.

Unlike Thumper, I'm not in love with my S&B... but I do like it very much.


lol

so in your opinion do you think its worth buying? i current have the volant...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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doesnt the volant have a ram air option? if so maybe that makes up for the upper rpm loss
 
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by azmidget91
doesnt the volant have a ram air option? if so maybe that makes up for the upper rpm loss
And adds to the lean condition.
 
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