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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Air Force One Installation

THinking pretty hard about getting the AF1 intake but am a bit concerned about installing it. Is it fairly straightforward for a non-mechanic?
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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I dont have one but they seem to go on pretty easy. Look around first though, it seems there are still some quirks.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yan
THinking pretty hard about getting the AF1 intake but am a bit concerned about installing it. Is it fairly straightforward for a non-mechanic?
Install of the Airforce One is very simple and straightforward. On a scale of one to five, five being the most difficult, it’s a one.

 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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I dont have one but they seem to go on pretty easy. Look around first though, it seems there are still some quirks.
One person is having a slight problem; that’s it as far as what’s been reported thus far on this forum.
 
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll be ordering it today.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Take note of the filter placement that jpdadeo shows in that picture. If too much tube is inside of the filter you might get an ear deafening note as I experianced. The sound is sort of a deep blowing over the top of a big bottle note. Not always just at certain times. I would guess it's air going just right over the edge of the tube inside the filter.

The pic on the right placement was not good on my ears and the placement shown on the left is now great! Big thanks to jpdadeo!
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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hmm, that's strange the AF1 has that large opening in the heat shield where the intake tube goes through. Maybe that's why you get the noise? The Airaid intake does not have that big hole, it is completely sealed.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Airforce One owners, what are your thoughts about possibly using a portion of the OEM air tube to shoot air directly into the end of the “Power Stack” filter? I’m talking about cutting off about six inches or so of stock tube that originally went into the inner fender and putting it back in place to direct the cold air straight down the throat of the filter seeing how it is designed to breath from the end too. What do you think?


 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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On JP's scale of 1-5, I'd give it a 2. It's REALLY simple and the directions are VERY straight forward. No worries at all... it's a great mod!

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Old May 24, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveVFX4
hmm, that's strange the AF1 has that large opening in the heat shield where the intake tube goes through. Maybe that's why you get the noise? The Airaid intake does not have that big hole, it is completely sealed.
I agree. I've installed a cold air intake on a 3 series BMW and the material surrounding the filter was tight with everything - it even came across and touched the inside if the fender. The AF1 has way to much room for airflow in and around the filter. Maybe Mike with Troyer has some thoughts. Maybe I should go with AirRaid???
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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I agree. I've installed a cold air intake on a 3 series BMW and the material surrounding the filter was tight with everything - it even came across and touched the inside if the fender. The AF1 has way to much room for airflow in and around the filter. Maybe Mike with Troyer has some thoughts. Maybe I should go with AirRaid???
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hmm, that's strange the AF1 has that large opening in the heat shield where the intake tube goes through. Maybe that's why you get the noise? The Airaid intake does not have that big hole, it is completely sealed.
"Airforce One Performance Intakes are designed from the ground up for absolute performance, quality and longevity. These systems use aviation grade stainless steel polished to a mirror finish that will never rust or corrode regardless of the climate the system is exposed to. Custom designed and molded Hi-Temp stabilized composite adapter boots, couplings and MAS airflow venturi adapters are used. The venturi adapter generates a high vacuum in the filter enabling the filter to draw a higher volume of air while naturally lowering the ambient incoming air temperature by several degrees, eliminating the need to enclose the filter in a box and substantially increasing horsepower. The Power Stack Filters are sized to each system and carry a lifetime warranty."

...info from Airforce One Performance
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jpdadeo
"Airforce One Performance Intakes are designed from the ground up for absolute performance, quality and longevity. These systems use aviation grade stainless steel polished to a mirror finish that will never rust or corrode regardless of the climate the system is exposed to. Custom designed and molded Hi-Temp stabilized composite adapter boots, couplings and MAS airflow venturi adapters are used. The venturi adapter generates a high vacuum in the filter enabling the filter to draw a higher volume of air while naturally lowering the ambient incoming air temperature by several degrees, eliminating the need to enclose the filter in a box and substantially increasing horsepower. The Power Stack Filters are sized to each system and carry a lifetime warranty."

...info from Airforce One Performance
I was not questioning the quality at all. It's obvious the quality is very high. My question would be why is there so much room around the filter 'cage' (for lack of a better word). What exactly is the 'cages' purpose? If it is to direct flow into the filter, it seems that this design would fall short. I would like somebody knowledgable in cold air intake designs to answer the question of how good of a seal do you really need around the 'cage'. From what Troyer is telling us, the tightness of fit does not matter, since the AirForce1 was one of the better ones. I'm not knocking AF1 at all (I have one on order) - just wondering about fit.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Air under the hood while you’re driving is constantly moving, so my guess is the air temp is the same under the hood (while moving) as it is outside. With the huge Power Stack filter the 04 – 05’s uses, it makes sense to me not to have it in a sealed box where airflow would be restricted. Let that puppy breathe.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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I just installed my AirForce One last night. Took less than an hour. The jury is still out as to whether or not it was worth the money. The exhaust sounds different ... louder when I stomp it and quiter once I've planed out on the throttle. Here sucking sounds when you stomp on it. We'll see if it was worth it once I get the Xcal2 programmer from Troyer.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Well, after reviewing install pictures of both the AF1 and AirRaid, I decided to call Troyer and change my order from the AF1 to the AirRaid. I simply couldn't get over how much space is around the 'cage' or now known as the 'cold air dam' of the AF1. It looks like they didn't spend enough time designing that piece, but that's just my opinion. As I understand it, the filter needs to be seperated from the engine compartment so that it will not intake hot engine air. Also, the Airraid website had a dyno run for a 04 F150 which showed a 12 hp gain. I will use this to directly compare to my dyno runs.
 
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