BUTT DYNO

 

Anybody else install this lately? If so, please post your personal experience with installation and power increase.

I'm trying to keep this thread alive.

Thanks in advance.

 

I m anxious too... i ordered and am on 18th list...

Was told it may shipping by this week or next week...probadly not me cuz i m on 18th ....i bet it ll be in 3rd week of May...

YOMAN!

 

I just ordered mine today! Probably won't get it for a few weeks. Can't wait!

Does anybody know if there are any ram air hoods that will work directly with this intake kit?

 

I ordered mine last week, the lady said she'd be getting back to me about shipping to Canada but nothing ?, I wonder what happened........

 

DK:

Give them a call back... I know they're VERY busy right now.

RP

 

What alot of people fail to realize that if you can get a TRUE custom tune so any intake you make will work on our trucks. There is another intake out that comes with a xcal that claims more gains then the AF1.

When i go and get my truck dyno tuned again next month, i'm really thinking about making a custom intake, or buy only the intake mentioned above.

Troyers xcal isnt a true custom tune. Its a mail order tune. A custom tune envolves you on the dyno. Period. End of discussion.

 

Sorry FF... you are wrong here...

Troyer *DOES* do a custom tune unique to each vehicle that he sets...

What you've described is simply another level of 'custom' tune above what Troyer offers as an Xcal tune. He is capable of doing your verion of a custom tune as well.

You see, everyone who does a custom tune through Troyer plugs in a great deal of information specific to that users truck on paper and gets it over to Mike. This data, which as you can imagine, is unique to each user. Modification questions, expectation questions, tire size, gears, types of fuel, truck usage, and a vast array of other things are taken into account when the programing is done (even computer codes are taken into account). Each tune is unique and thus custom.



I don't know bud... by that definition, it sure sounds 'custom' to me? Period. End of discussion.

 

No, the tunes troyer sells are mail order tunes. Its a general tune for gerneral vehicles for general mods. You see it all the time, just look in the lightning section on this forum. Guys will go and get dynotuned, and compared to their mail order tunes, such as troyer sells, compared to their dyno tune, they will pick up 20+rwhp or MORE. That is the difference from mail order tunes, like troyer sales, and a TRUE custom tune.


Line up 4 of the same cars, with the same mods, and I can guarente to you that when all are put on the dyno, all will have small variances in their tunes to get the most power out of ONE vehicle. Thats just the way it works.

I'm not saying troyer tunes are not good. I'm saying a true dyno tune WILL get you more power. Troyer cant give a specific tune to "push the envelope" if you will. To risky on his part for his customers vehicles and his business. He gives a super safe generic tune for the mods someone puts on their vehicle.

Thats the way mail order tunes work.

 

I agree with you... to get more specific, you'd have to do something like dyno or even more to really, as you say, push the envelope but, I still draw exception to the 'out of the box' type of tune that you describe because it's simply not that...

A SuperChips 1714 is a 'generic' tune as you've described. It's a 'one size fits all' type of tune that takes into account the worst fuel, the worst driving conditions, and the worst of everything else programed into a tuner. Granted, it's a pretty big boost over stock but, the XCal will, indeed, go well above and beyond that because it's more geared towards a specific vehicle, in a specific environment, for a specific driver, with specific modifications.

I think we're both singing from the same sheet of music here but, there's a little bit of discrepancy in the description.... Custom is custom... it's not a generic out of the box tune...

Your version of custom involves having to dyno out and such and, while I agree with you that it'll probably yield a higher output and be even more specific to the vehicle, you can't discount the fact that customization within the XCal tunes from Troyer is present... maybe not on a 'dyno' level but, none the less present... and thus, custom.

RP

 

Maybe then the correct terminology I should use is "custom generic tune"


Either way, im not a fan of mail order tunes, but then im not like most people. I'm willing to spend that extra $100-200 to get the best of the best.

 

Whatever FF...

Far from Generic... Go spend your extra $200...

 

whatever rockpick


So the only difference between the xcal tune and the ability of a superchips(although i hate the superchips) Is its programmed for generic tunes for mods?`

So in that case, do you call the superchips a custom tune as well because tire/gear/etc. can be changed with it?

Atually, i managed to do everything for the same price I could buy a mail order tune XCAL from troyer. Anyone else could repeat if they waited around for the right deals. But you can anytime do a custom dyno tune with a predator(can be found all day new for $300 shipped, used for less) and a tune from a leading tuner($200) for $500.

The xcal is how much? $425? is that shipped?

Now which one looks better?

 

First and foremost, I appologize for my tone in that last post. That was out of line and out of frustration... not an excuse but, I shouldn't have said it.

Further, I understand that your custom tune is going to be better than what I'm running and that I have just as much money in mine as you do in yours. I'm really glad you got that good of a deal.

My only point is that Troyer's tune is, indeed, a custom tune. Not a generic custom tune, not a off the shelf tune but, a tune that was for me; taking in to count my modifications, my fuel types in and around the area and even simple details like computer codes and stock gears. You're exactly right again in that it'd be far too much liability to take a tune to the level that you have and ship it out to folks on the street without ever having dyno'd or datalogged the person's vehicle. Again, your level of custom tuning is just that much better than one that anyone could provide based on data sheets, driving styles, and environmental conditions but, to come in and make a blanket statement about every tune with the exception of the type you got wasn't a fair comparison.

Best of luck to you. Take care.

 

With taking into consideration what FatherFord said, I guess that the 4 hours I spent with Mike data logging my truck yesterday is going to give me a " generic tune".
I think not....