5.4 Vs 4.2
Really? Is that why Porsche can get 500 hp from a 6 cylinder and your not getting close to that with a 5.4 V8?
Its not about discplament, but how well its built
Craftsmanship and inspired enginering is a replacement for displacement any day
I know its apples to oranges, but that is a very broad statement
Its not about discplament, but how well its built
Craftsmanship and inspired enginering is a replacement for displacement any day
I know its apples to oranges, but that is a very broad statement
Last edited by FlashmasterK; Apr 30, 2010 at 02:35 PM.
Really? Is that why Porsche can get 500 hp from a 6 cylinder and your not getting close to that with a 5.4 V8?
Its not about discplament, but how well its built
Craftsmanship and inspired enginering is a replacement for displacement any day
I know its apples to oranges, but that is a very broad statement
Its not about discplament, but how well its built
Craftsmanship and inspired enginering is a replacement for displacement any day
I know its apples to oranges, but that is a very broad statement
I found an article on turbos on 4.6 and 4.2 motors. Can't imagine the numbers on a 5.4. Here's a quote from the linked article.
"The 4.6L 2-valve motors are usually looked down on by their 4-valve brethren,
but we ran a twin-turbo system (from HP Performance) on a mild 4.6L 2-valve motor that produced
over 700 flywheel hp with just 13 psi of boost."
http://www.mre-books.com/sa115/sa115_8.html
There really is no replacement for displacement.
Last edited by mxracer49; Apr 30, 2010 at 03:37 PM.
idk guys i drive some pretty fast 4.2's at work. They are factory supercharged 4.2L 4V V8 in the 06-09 Range Rover, and 06-09 Range Rover Sport 
they would definitely beat my truck in a race

they would definitely beat my truck in a race
The statement was there is no replacement for displacement.
I found a replacement, more HP out of a smaller displacement engine.
Hell, the 2011 mustang V6 is rated at 305 hp and the 5.4 is rated at 310. Im sure I could find 5 hp somewhere...
Im saying ingenuity can be a replacement, if your smart about it, you can make these 4.2L really fun to drive.
Yall sound like those people who only drink imported beer because, well its imported so it HAS to be better.
I found a replacement, more HP out of a smaller displacement engine.
Hell, the 2011 mustang V6 is rated at 305 hp and the 5.4 is rated at 310. Im sure I could find 5 hp somewhere...
Im saying ingenuity can be a replacement, if your smart about it, you can make these 4.2L really fun to drive.
Yall sound like those people who only drink imported beer because, well its imported so it HAS to be better.
Last edited by FlashmasterK; Apr 30, 2010 at 04:58 PM.
I can't remember all the post I was going to comment. If I remember right, I agree with Raoul, 4x4 and 4x2 make a difference.
I loved my ol 302, it ran like a beast. Kinda just ran good, no problems.
Im NOT saying my truck is fast just simply showing a friendly race. I have no problems with V8's. Just for Gods sake showing me and my buddy racing.
I loved my ol 302, it ran like a beast. Kinda just ran good, no problems.
Im NOT saying my truck is fast just simply showing a friendly race. I have no problems with V8's. Just for Gods sake showing me and my buddy racing.
V6 owners are all young and this is their first vehicle. its not like we went onto the lots thinking: "oh yeah, imma smoke me some V8s!" i guarantee 100% of the V6 owners will eventually move up. we're all performance oriented and because we are younger and broke, we do with what we've got. we all know the V6 isnt fast. but we didn't buy them, most of us got them as hand me downs, and well- i'm pretty damned proud of it for my first vehicle. its no nascar winner but you gotta look through other peoples eyes sometimes.
I have owned the following:
97 F150 Ext Cab 2wd 4.2 with efans, under drive pulleys, cold air intake, and duals
97 F150 Std Cab 4x4, stock, 4.6
02 Screw FX4 5.4, bone stock
In fairness, I did put 265/70/17's on the 4.2 with stock gears, but even with the 235's it came with, there would be no chance for the 4.2.
The 4.2 isn't meant to go fast,
On a side note, I do know a guy who swapped a blown 4.2 in a mustang and gives the 4.6 mustang guys a heart ache, but most of the 4.6 guys aren't as heavily modded.
97 F150 Ext Cab 2wd 4.2 with efans, under drive pulleys, cold air intake, and duals
97 F150 Std Cab 4x4, stock, 4.6
02 Screw FX4 5.4, bone stock
In fairness, I did put 265/70/17's on the 4.2 with stock gears, but even with the 235's it came with, there would be no chance for the 4.2.
The 4.2 isn't meant to go fast,
On a side note, I do know a guy who swapped a blown 4.2 in a mustang and gives the 4.6 mustang guys a heart ache, but most of the 4.6 guys aren't as heavily modded.
it depends...can the 4.2L be a rental? i would ramp the hell out of it to keep up if i had to lol.
thats correct. ever wonder why the 4.9L I6 was replaced by the 4.2L and why the 5.0L was replaced by the 4.6L and the 5.8L was replaced by the 5.4L? because they make more power and are more efficient. but they have less displacement. its not just ford. dodge 5.2L replaced by 4.7L, 5.9L replaced by 5.7L, chevy 5.0L replaced by 4.8L, 5.7L replaced by 5.3L... i could go on forever...my 96 trans am was a LT1 350ci 5.7L V8 rated at 285hp, but in 98 the LT1 was replaced by the LS1 which was still a 5.7L but was 346ci and they were 305hp and moved up to 325hp by 02. its everywhere, engines can be made smaller and have more power and be more efficient. so there IS a replacement for displacement.
both f150s were run on the same area of the same road.
and just fyi, a 4.2L manual against a 4.2L auto with the same setup are two different animals.
my 04 heritage 4.2L 5spd with 3.08 rearend reg cab longbed 2wd. 1st vid is 0-60, 2nd vid is 0-100 but the clutch slipped in 1st gear so use the 60-100 in the 2nd vid and the 0-60 in the 1st.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK8617kjGs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vGBlO5DOI
my 08 4.2L 5spd with 3.55LS rearend reg cab shortbed 2wd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIqVKdg-LyQ
and just some food for thought, my dad's 00 sierra. 4.8L V8 rated at 275hp with about 65k miles in this video, well maintained. push button 4x4 but it is in 2wd. it is a ext cab shortbed auto with a tow package, rearend unknown but i would guess 3.73s. sorry no sound. both of my 4.2s would beat it. the 08 would beat it easily. 04 would have had some trouble i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNAqoEr6WI
and just fyi, a 4.2L manual against a 4.2L auto with the same setup are two different animals.
my 04 heritage 4.2L 5spd with 3.08 rearend reg cab longbed 2wd. 1st vid is 0-60, 2nd vid is 0-100 but the clutch slipped in 1st gear so use the 60-100 in the 2nd vid and the 0-60 in the 1st.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK8617kjGs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vGBlO5DOI
my 08 4.2L 5spd with 3.55LS rearend reg cab shortbed 2wd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIqVKdg-LyQ
and just some food for thought, my dad's 00 sierra. 4.8L V8 rated at 275hp with about 65k miles in this video, well maintained. push button 4x4 but it is in 2wd. it is a ext cab shortbed auto with a tow package, rearend unknown but i would guess 3.73s. sorry no sound. both of my 4.2s would beat it. the 08 would beat it easily. 04 would have had some trouble i think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNAqoEr6WI
both f150s were run on the same area of the same road.
and just fyi, a 4.2L manual against a 4.2L auto with the same setup are two different animals.
my 04 heritage 4.2L 5spd with 3.08 rearend reg cab longbed 2wd. 1st vid is 0-60, 2nd vid is 0-100 but the clutch slipped in 1st gear so use the 60-100 in the 2nd vid and the 0-60 in the 1st.
and just some food for thought, my dad's 00 sierra. 4.8L V8 rated at 275hp with about 65k miles in this video, well maintained. push button 4x4 but it is in 2wd. it is a ext cab shortbed auto with a tow package, rearend unknown but i would guess 3.73s. sorry no sound. both of my 4.2s would beat it. the 08 would beat it easily. 04 would have had some trouble i think.
and just fyi, a 4.2L manual against a 4.2L auto with the same setup are two different animals.
my 04 heritage 4.2L 5spd with 3.08 rearend reg cab longbed 2wd. 1st vid is 0-60, 2nd vid is 0-100 but the clutch slipped in 1st gear so use the 60-100 in the 2nd vid and the 0-60 in the 1st.
and just some food for thought, my dad's 00 sierra. 4.8L V8 rated at 275hp with about 65k miles in this video, well maintained. push button 4x4 but it is in 2wd. it is a ext cab shortbed auto with a tow package, rearend unknown but i would guess 3.73s. sorry no sound. both of my 4.2s would beat it. the 08 would beat it easily. 04 would have had some trouble i think.




