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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:31 AM
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(fyi whole post is non angry just facts )i can show you my truck if you would like to see for yourself i live in san antonio ... lol my tires do lean in but they dont wear out to bad ... it dosent matter as for the not being able to fix it with the new uca your CRAZY what do you think comes with a 6 inch kit ?

* 3.5" Fabricated Lift Spindles

* 3" Lift Springs

* Upper Control Arms

so that mean that with those new uca it will set your alignment back to stock specs then if you add the 1.5 spacer you are just like a regular truck with a 1.5 spacer either need a alignment or new camber bolts to fix for the added camber
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 03:42 AM
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What i don't understand is how you were able to bolt the upper arms back to the spindle with 4.5 inches added in there. I would think that the upper arms would hit the frame because they'd be reaching down so far. What i also dont understand is how its even driveable. With just two inch coils in my truck the front wheels were kicked in very far at the top. - and it took new balljoints and a cam kit to get it alright

do you have a picture from the front where you can see the front wheels??



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now i am running 3inch coils and the 1.5 inch day star spacer and a 1 inch block in the rear and a 3 inch body lift for a total of 4 inch lift ... still with 33's

this is current with my bl
from what you said you have on the truck right now you should have about 7.5 inches of lift. ..and you said you have a total of 4 and in your picture it doesnt look like it has all that stuff under it either. The truck does look really good though

but somethings wrong here. please clarify this for me
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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A true 6" suspension lift comes with extended length steering knuckles(not spindles), extended length coils(far longer than stock coils), drop down sub-frame(or crossmembers) if you will, as well as extended length shocks. The whole reason for extended everything is because you need there to be more room between the LCA and the coil "mount" on the frame. There's simply not enough room to shove a "lift coil" capable of providing 3" of lift in there and THEN throwing a lift spacer on top of it. Some people have a horrible time compressing a stock coil with a lift spacer into the stock housings, let alone, a lift coil that has 3" of lift.

In order to run any kind of coil+spacer set up that provides between 2.5-3.5" of lift you need to have aftermarket upper control arms. If you dont then your upper control arms make a horrid angle with the spindles, I know, as I have tried it. I could barely get my ball joint to attach to the spindle with 2" lift coils and the 1.5" daystar spacer. I was not about to force it as it just looked all wrong. I can understand what you are thinking as far as "setting it back to stock specs" with the aftermarket upper control arms, but the whole jist of the story is.. you are not creating any more space for that coil+spacer set up to be forced into. Therefore its my belief that it would not work.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Sorry bro, there's no way in hell you are running a 4.5" lift out of coils on stock control arms or aftermarket ones for that matter. You are out of your mind if you would actually drive the truck like that . I put 2" lift coils on and my alignment was thrown off so much by those that my tires were wearing down horribly on the insides within a month. If you don't believe me then I can get some pics for ya, as I still have the tires.
i concur

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(fyi whole post is non angry just facts )i can show you my truck if you would like to see for yourself i live in san antonio ... lol my tires do lean in but they dont wear out to bad ... it dosent matter as for the not being able to fix it with the new uca your CRAZY what do you think comes with a 6 inch kit ?

* 3.5" Fabricated Lift Spindles

* 3" Lift Springs

* Upper Control Arms

so that mean that with those new uca it will set your alignment back to stock specs then if you add the 1.5 spacer you are just like a regular truck with a 1.5 spacer either need a alignment or new camber bolts to fix for the added camber
NO NO NO... a actual 6" Supsension kit comes with a new front crossmember that lowers the LCA.

As far as im concerned the only think aftermarket UCA's do is allow for alittle more angle... not more lift they are still made to the same specs as the stock UCA's except the joint is different.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by b2therad
Sorry bro, there's no way in hell you are running a 4.5" lift out of coils on stock control arms or aftermarket ones for that matter. You are out of your mind if you would actually drive the truck like that . I put 2" lift coils on and my alignment was thrown off so much by those that my tires were wearing down horribly on the insides within a month. If you don't believe me then I can get some pics for ya, as I still have the tires.
I concor too. I got 3" lift springs and everything was thrown off, and not only that the ball joint like you mentioned was a pain in the ***. There is no way that truck has 4.5" of coil lift. I would be almost as high as yours after his body lift. My quesstimate is 1.5" spacer and 3" Body lift.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by b2therad
A true 6" suspension lift comes with extended length steering knuckles(not spindles), extended length coils(far longer than stock coils), drop down sub-frame(or crossmembers) if you will, as well as extended length shocks. The whole reason for extended everything is because you need there to be more room between the LCA and the coil "mount" on the frame. There's simply not enough room to shove a "lift coil" capable of providing 3" of lift in there and THEN throwing a lift spacer on top of it. Some people have a horrible time compressing a stock coil with a lift spacer into the stock housings, let alone, a lift coil that has 3" of lift.

In order to run any kind of coil+spacer set up that provides between 2.5-3.5" of lift you need to have aftermarket upper control arms. If you dont then your upper control arms make a horrid angle with the spindles, I know, as I have tried it. I could barely get my ball joint to attach to the spindle with 2" lift coils and the 1.5" daystar spacer. I was not about to force it as it just looked all wrong. I can understand what you are thinking as far as "setting it back to stock specs" with the aftermarket upper control arms, but the whole jist of the story is.. you are not creating any more space for that coil+spacer set up to be forced into. Therefore its my belief that it would not work.
Agreed and he knows cuz hes seen all the pics of my new stuff compared to his spindles and coils.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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ok so does any one know were i can get a spindle lift for cheap and some rims with off road tires? my budgets about 2400 for my lift and rims. the cheapest spindle lift i found was about 900.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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b2therad will sell you his with lift coils and shocks haha.

what are you looking for? spindles and rear blocks?
did you look at doetsch
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chadc817
ok so does any one know were i can get a spindle lift for cheap and some rims with off road tires? my budgets about 2400 for my lift and rims. the cheapest spindle lift i found was about 900.
More info on lift you want. SpringTech has Spindles for 379
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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yea thats what i was thinking about getting but if its gonna be like 900 i might as well get a 6in for like 1200. and no i only looked at the fabtech ones.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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did you read the thread? refer to post 7 about the broken springtech spindle haha.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chadc817
yea thats what i was thinking about getting but if its gonna be like 900 i might as well get a 6in for like 1200. and no i only looked at the fabtech ones.
i think brad was looking for around 800 for his basically 6" all around with shocks but youd have to talk with him
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by thejake1989
did you read the thread? refer to post 7 about the broken springtech spindle haha.
Haha. The 7.5" lift with 4.5" Lift on coils. Yeah lets believe him...

I know personally at least 5 guys running those Spindles with ZERO problems. Litterly not a damn thing wrong. Just his luck, he has such bad luck his 7.5" lifted F150 sits about 4" higher than stock 2WD.

I know a blue 2002 Ranger Edge that has those SpringTech Spindles and beats the living crap out of his truck and still hasn't broken anything on SpringTech.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOval_Man
My quesstimate is 1.5" spacer and 3" Body lift.
yeah thats what i was thinking too

Originally Posted by chadc817
ok so does any one know were i can get a spindle lift for cheap and some rims with off road tires? my budgets about 2400 for my lift and rims. the cheapest spindle lift i found was about 900.
search craigslist for rims and tires
 
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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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lol ok well here are pics i just took as for how the tires lean in they look worse in the pic then that actually are .. the height to the top of the front fender is 40.25inches and the rear is 40 inches that is with 285/75/16's running about 35 psi all around with a empty gas tank

as for my ranger and the broken spindle it was rather clear that there was nothing that i could of done to cause the stud to snap in half ??? but yea i guess it was bad luck ...

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