f150 is starting to shudder/chug and stall in gears
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f150 is starting to shudder/chug and stall in gears
I just recently bought a 2006 ford f150 5.4 triton.
This truck started to shudder after driving it for 30 minutes or so. It's starting to do it more often. Now, when it's warmed up it'll stall/die in every gear except N and P and the check engine light will come on. I'll start the truck again and the light is off and it seems fine until I put it into gears. The idleing is a little rough as well. Also, Sometimes it'll sound somewhat like a rod is knocking but once I hit the gas for a few seconds it's gone.
I took it too autozone when the light came on the first time. Here are the codes I got
P0022
P1000
P0345
I already changed out the cam sensor in bank 2 (So simple) yet it's still having the same issue. Any idea?
Edit: It doesn't really shudder often, hardly at all, but when the engine does warm up it'll die when I shift into gears unless I give it gas. When the engine is still "cool" it's fine. It sounds weird but it's fine. So it's not really a shudder but it's more or so like maybe the timing is off? Does that make sense? It just stalls out and dies when into gears. It idols a little rough but not horrible. Going by the codes, do you think it could just be the VCT solenoid? The autozone scan tool that gave me the code p0022 says that the probable cause is cam timing incorrect or vct solenoid stuck open. It's in bank 2 also.
This truck started to shudder after driving it for 30 minutes or so. It's starting to do it more often. Now, when it's warmed up it'll stall/die in every gear except N and P and the check engine light will come on. I'll start the truck again and the light is off and it seems fine until I put it into gears. The idleing is a little rough as well. Also, Sometimes it'll sound somewhat like a rod is knocking but once I hit the gas for a few seconds it's gone.
I took it too autozone when the light came on the first time. Here are the codes I got
P0022
P1000
P0345
I already changed out the cam sensor in bank 2 (So simple) yet it's still having the same issue. Any idea?
Edit: It doesn't really shudder often, hardly at all, but when the engine does warm up it'll die when I shift into gears unless I give it gas. When the engine is still "cool" it's fine. It sounds weird but it's fine. So it's not really a shudder but it's more or so like maybe the timing is off? Does that make sense? It just stalls out and dies when into gears. It idols a little rough but not horrible. Going by the codes, do you think it could just be the VCT solenoid? The autozone scan tool that gave me the code p0022 says that the probable cause is cam timing incorrect or vct solenoid stuck open. It's in bank 2 also.
Last edited by toshortofnam; 03-10-2015 at 02:57 AM. Reason: More information
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Buy what? You have some troubleshooting to do, there are a lot of things you need to look at.
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Possible causes
- Variable Camshaft Timing solenoid stuck open
- Continuous oil flow to the VCT piston chamber
- Erratic camshaft position due to low oil pressure
- Oil flow restriction in the oil passages or the VCT valve body
- VCT solenoid valve stuck open
- Open or short in the VCT circuit
- Open VPWR circuit
- Camshaft advance mechanism binding (VCT unit)
- Damaged VCT phaser
- Damaged camshaft position (CMP) sensor
- Open or short in the CMP sensor circuits
- Radio frequency interference (RFI) interference
What does this mean? What does this mean?
Tech notes
Dirty oil can clog the small holes in the VCT valve. Start by replacing your oil (with the recommended oil weight) and oil filter, if you have not replaced in the recommended oil change interval.
What does this mean? What does this mean?
Possible symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Lack/Loss of power
- Engine rough idle
P0022 Ford Description
The powertrain control module (PCM) monitors the variable camshaft timing (VCT) position for an over-advanced camshaft timing. The test fails when the camshaft timing exceeds a maximum calibrated value or remains in an retarded position.
Read more: http://engine-codes.com/p0022_ford.html#ixzz3Tut13ToJ
Possible causes
- Variable Camshaft Timing solenoid stuck open
- Continuous oil flow to the VCT piston chamber
- Erratic camshaft position due to low oil pressure
- Oil flow restriction in the oil passages or the VCT valve body
- VCT solenoid valve stuck open
- Open or short in the VCT circuit
- Open VPWR circuit
- Camshaft advance mechanism binding (VCT unit)
- Damaged VCT phaser
- Damaged camshaft position (CMP) sensor
- Open or short in the CMP sensor circuits
- Radio frequency interference (RFI) interference
What does this mean? What does this mean?
Tech notes
Dirty oil can clog the small holes in the VCT valve. Start by replacing your oil (with the recommended oil weight) and oil filter, if you have not replaced in the recommended oil change interval.
What does this mean? What does this mean?
Possible symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Lack/Loss of power
- Engine rough idle
P0022 Ford Description
The powertrain control module (PCM) monitors the variable camshaft timing (VCT) position for an over-advanced camshaft timing. The test fails when the camshaft timing exceeds a maximum calibrated value or remains in an retarded position.
Read more: http://engine-codes.com/p0022_ford.html#ixzz3Tut13ToJ
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No.......you need to troubleshoot, not just throw parts at it.
*IF* you need solenoids, I'd recommend OEM, your best price will be from Tasca. We have a rep on the forum. You can buy Dormans on line for less than 50 bucks each, but I don't know if they can be trusted.
There's threads all over the V8 and 04-08 forums on issues with the VCT system. A common issue is sludge in engines that were not meticulously maintained with frequent oil changes using the correct oil and filter.
You may need phasers, if so read this thread:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...placement.html
Another thread to read:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...eshooting.html
*IF* you need solenoids, I'd recommend OEM, your best price will be from Tasca. We have a rep on the forum. You can buy Dormans on line for less than 50 bucks each, but I don't know if they can be trusted.
There's threads all over the V8 and 04-08 forums on issues with the VCT system. A common issue is sludge in engines that were not meticulously maintained with frequent oil changes using the correct oil and filter.
You may need phasers, if so read this thread:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...placement.html
Another thread to read:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...eshooting.html
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No.......you need to troubleshoot, not just throw parts at it.
*IF* you need solenoids, I'd recommend OEM, your best price will be from Tasca. We have a rep on the forum. You can buy Dormans on line for less than 50 bucks each, but I don't know if they can be trusted.
There's threads all over the V8 and 04-08 forums on issues with the VCT system. A common issue is sludge in engines that were not meticulously maintained with frequent oil changes using the correct oil and filter.
You may need phasers, if so read this thread:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...placement.html
Another thread to read:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...eshooting.html
*IF* you need solenoids, I'd recommend OEM, your best price will be from Tasca. We have a rep on the forum. You can buy Dormans on line for less than 50 bucks each, but I don't know if they can be trusted.
There's threads all over the V8 and 04-08 forums on issues with the VCT system. A common issue is sludge in engines that were not meticulously maintained with frequent oil changes using the correct oil and filter.
You may need phasers, if so read this thread:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...placement.html
Another thread to read:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...eshooting.html
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