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Old 01-09-2017, 03:08 PM
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2007 5.4 Triton 3 Valve Spark Plug Help

Okay I searched and did not pull up a thread for this, but I have a 2007 f150 super crew xlt with the 3 valve 5.4 triton engine. I bought my truck used and it has about 143,XXX miles on it. It needs a tune up and I want to change out the spark plugs but I am well aware of the notorious broken plug issue with the triton engines.

I have talked to different mechanics and all of them have quoted me at around $500 plus tax to replace the plugs with new motorcraft SP515 plugs.

I don't want to spend that much money (I usually do all of my own maintenance unless it requires serious shop work). I know of the plug socket tool that retails from $25-$50 plus can get all 8 SP515 plugs for $100 total. I've watched videos of guys putting seafoam through the throttle bodies to reduce the carbon in the engine which causes the plugs to seize and then using the plug tool to remove/replace the spark plugs.

My question: Is it worth trying to do myself with the spark plug tool/seafoam treatment or should I put the money towards having a mechanic replace the plugs for $500?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:55 PM
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Start putting Techron (not Seafoam) in the gas tank now. Run a few tanks through. Get some carb cleaner and a Lisle tool. Crack the plugs loose about 1/8 turn and pour some carb cleaner in each well and let it soak.
 
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Toler 21
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My question: Is it worth trying to do myself with the spark plug tool/seafoam treatment or should I put the money towards having a mechanic replace the plugs for $500?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
You're looking at $150 vs $500 with the $350 diff staying in your pocket for your labor. To me, 63 and retired, working part time mostly for something to do (I have a decent pension) and to keep me in touch with my buddies, etc ... if it took all day for two days I'm ahead. I've been doing most of my own wrenching since I was very young and I have a bunch of buddies to call on for help, advice, wreckers, etc (I was a state trooper, you get to make a lot of great mechanic / ems type friends that way). I own a Lisle tool too (it'll work on my '07 and on the '08 GT) To me, it's a no brainer .... unless health or other circumstance were to dictate otherwise.

Don't know your situation or abilities.
 
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:12 PM
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Like GLC said! Use the nastiest carb/choke cleaner spray you can find. Do not do it on a hot truck. 1/8 turn only then 1/2 fill the well with the carb cleaner and _walk away_. Leave this for a couple of hours. Slow steady torque then on your ratchet..

Did the last 2 5.3's this way and never broke a plug. Makes some horrible sounds coming out, but they came out. What you're doing is move the plug just off its seat, the carb cleaner is _the_ best product to desolve carbon. Over an hour or more, it slowly seeps down the threads and softens the carbon on the extension.
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:27 AM
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Check the date stamp on your engine and do a search on when they changed over to a different head design. I have a 2008 and changed them myself with absolutely no issues.
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Moore
Like GLC said! Use the nastiest carb/choke cleaner spray you can find. Do not do it on a hot truck. 1/8 turn only then 1/2 fill the well with the carb cleaner and _walk away_. Leave this for a couple of hours. Slow steady torque then on your ratchet..

Did the last 2 5.3's this way and never broke a plug. Makes some horrible sounds coming out, but they came out. What you're doing is move the plug just off its seat, the carb cleaner is _the_ best product to desolve carbon. Over an hour or more, it slowly seeps down the threads and softens the carbon on the extension.
He's working on a 5.4L though . . .
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:43 AM
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Check the date stamp on your engine and do a search on when they changed over to a different head design. I have a 2008 and changed them myself with absolutely no issues.
He has a 2007. The head revision did not happen till a few months after the 2008 came out. The best way to tell if you have the revised heads, the COP boots will be brown instead of black.
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 01:27 PM
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I have always sprayed aerokroil in the plug wells about a week before I plan to change them. The day of changing them spray some more aerokroil in the plug wells and drive to my parents barn. Spray a little more aerokroil in the wells and slowly remove the plugs a little at a time with the engine warm (not hot). Plugs always come right out with no issues.

I'll note that I have also changed my plugs every 30K since I first changed them at 15K to avoid any issues
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 01:47 PM
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The original TSB said aerokroil, that was superseded by one that says carb cleaner.

When removing, loosen them a bit at a time, cranking them back in a bit each time - "rock" them out.

The Techron in the gas makes a difference, that will help loosen the carbon. Even better is get a BG or Motorvac job prior to the change.
 
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:51 AM
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I used the seafoam treatment twice a week before I did my 04 with 115k. I parked the truck and pull out the tools. I used an impact to remove them and had one I had to use the tool to remove the lower part. That one did look like it had been like that far awhile.
 
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:23 PM
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Get the removal tool and don't bother with anything else. I did the whole soak, crack 1/8th turn, soak method and the tool was so easy to use I just broke off darn near every one and used the tool. It was so easy! Took me about 4 hours total.
 
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:22 PM
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OTC TOOLS 6918 spark plug removal kit is what I used on my 06' 5.4. Had 3 of them break on me. Very easy to use and works great. Saved me over $600 taking it in to dealer.
 
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:26 PM
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Also, I would recommend changing your coils as well. Don't get the cheap $30-$50 set off eBay, they are junk. Spend the $100 or so & get the good ones. Made my mistake with cheap ones & luckily had a spare original to replace in my toolbox while on a road trip.
 
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Old 02-18-2017, 10:07 AM
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Lisle 65600 is cheaper than the OTC.
 
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:15 AM
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I have a set of 8 new plugs and a Lisle tool that I'll sell at a good price, send a PM if you're interested.
 



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