Neal - or anybody else that has an electric fan(s),

Some seat-of-the-pants feedback please!! How do you like them? Specifically: Noise reduction? Any noticable power gain? MPG gains?? Other??

Would you still do the same fans if you had to do it all over again?

I realize that this should go in the "Aftermarket" threads but Neal, you seem easier to find here.

Thanks in advance!



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1999 4X4SC, F250 Light Duty, 5.4L (replaced with new 5.4L 04/11/00 due to oil leak)
4R100 also replaced with reman on 02/07/01 due to hard 3-4 downshift.
3.73LS
Gibson Sweptside
K&N
Bilsteins
Flip Chip

 

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/000950.html

 

Thanks gofish!


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1999 4X4SC, F250 Light Duty, 5.4L (replaced with new 5.4L 04/11/00 due to oil leak)
4R100 also replaced with reman on 02/07/01 due to hard 3-4 downshift.
3.73LS
Gibson Sweptside
K&N
Bilsteins
Flip Chip

 

HI!... MPOCRATS : I love my electric fans. My dealer has a different opinion on that!LOL! Read my thread under transmissions. I noticed that the truck is a bit quieter when idleing and on take off. It's hard to hear properly because of my FLOWMASTERS!lol!. I notice that my 0-60MPH times increased and I have more top end, 137MPH. It really cleaned up my engine bay too. I've seen other electric fan installs on other F-150 trucks and to me they all looked like "BUTCHER" jobs. My set-up looks factory and I get compliments on it all the time when my hood is up. Hope this helps you out.

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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK" E-MAIL :nnewman@sympatico.ca
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP "FLIP-CHIP", BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS, FORD RACING 24LB injectors, RUSSELL stainless steel braided tranny lines with fittings.


FUTURE MODS : BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150 LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 340H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 16.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon JAZ fuel cell,etc

 

Neal..
When in the hell are you going to give us some pictures of your truck?
If you need a place to host the pictures ill put them on my domain for you.

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97 F150 Longbed V8 4.6
K&N air filter
K&N FIPK tech MOD & removed elbow silencer
Tires: Yokohama 265/75/16 Geolander AT+
Hyper white xenon bulbs
Bedliner and raven shell
6 disc cd changer
Oil & filter used

Gasoline used

My Truck

 

HI!... So you want pics of my truck? Here are some pics of my truck!LOL!
http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak1-1.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak1-2.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak1-3.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak2-1.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak2-2.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak2-3.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak3-1.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...s/freak3-2.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...n00/neal33.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...nealsk&n37.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...nhpf9954b.jpeg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...n99/nhpf45.jpg

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto...n99/nhpf43.jpg




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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK" E-MAIL :nnewman@sympatico.ca
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP "FLIP-CHIP", BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS, FORD RACING 24LB injectors, RUSSELL stainless steel braided tranny lines with fittings.


FUTURE MODS : BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150 LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 340H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 16.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon JAZ fuel cell,etc

 

aahhahah those are awesome neal!

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97 F150 Longbed V8 4.6
K&N air filter
K&N FIPK tech MOD & removed elbow silencer
Tires: Yokohama 265/75/16 Geolander AT+
Hyper white xenon bulbs
Bedliner and raven shell
6 disc cd changer
Oil & filter used

Gasoline used

My Truck

 

Hi Neal

The pictures of your truck are cool, was only able to view about half of them, the others would not open. I have a question about some of your mods to your engine. 1 what did you do on your tps mod?. 2 your digital air intake temp sensor, did you buy it or make it your self, and what did it do for performance?. 3 your relocated ats, what is it and were did you move it to, and what did it do for performance?. will any of these mods add more power to my 4.6?. thanks for your help Larry

by the way i will be doing the electric fan install on my truck very soon.

 

HI!... SPEEDER : I just checked all the pic links. They all seem to be working fine for me right now. The "TPS MOD" stands for THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR. That's the wire harness and plug that is on the side of the TB. Turn your key forward to the "ON" position, but don't start the truck. Take a volt meter and probe the center wire. Mine was set at 0.79 if I remember right. You want it to be around 0.98. You can go to 0.99, but if you sometimes get a very slight voltage spike it can sometines give you a bad idle. To adjust the TPS just loosen the two side screws and VERY, VERY slowly turn the TPS till the volt meter reads the desired reading (0.98).By adjusting your TPS, you can get about a 1/10TH off your 1/4 mile times and your throttle responce increases very slightly.

My digital temp guage does nothing for performance. It simply tells me what the air temp is that is getting sucked into the MAF sensor and the engine.

I relocated my ATS (air tempurature sensor) because I had to fool the computer into thinking it was sucking in colder air than it actually was. This causes the computer to richen the fuel/air mix. I wanted this because I was maxing out my stock 19lb injectors and was running out of fuel about 3/4's of the way down the 1/4 mile. This gave me a bit more fuel and helped me in my 1/4 mile runs with the stock 19lb'ers. I have since installed 24lb injectors. I lengthened the ATS wire harness and stuck my sensor out from under the hood right where the fender meets the black window wiper cowl.

As for performace for your 4.6, the TPS MOD will help you very slightly, and the ATS relocated might too. Hard to say unless you do them.

Here's a pic of my ATS relocation :

http://www.zing.com/picture/p1043f60...c.jpg.orig.jpg





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NEAL " THE H.P FREAK" E-MAIL :nnewman@sympatico.ca
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), fiberglass smooth wiper cowl (painted OXFORD WHITE), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP "FLIP-CHIP", BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan, custom ported (STOCK) throttle body, custom digital air intake temp sensor, custom ported TB intake elbow, relocated ATS, FORD RACING 24LB injectors, RUSSELL stainless steel braided tranny lines with fittings.


FUTURE MODS : BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, 80MM PRO-M MASS AIR METER, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD WITH CUSTOM FABRICATED RAM AIR SET-UP, CAL-TRAC TRACTION BARS, EXTRUDE HONED INTAKE MANIFOLD, SHM CUSTOM FUEL RAILS, 90/10 FRONT CE SHOCKS, 70/30 REAR CE SHOCKS, BELL TECH 2/4 DROP, EXPEDITION CENTER CONSOLE, HARLEY DAVISON F-150 LOWER FRONT VALANCE (painted oxford white) and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA SUPERCHARGER.

ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 340H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.

CURRENT PERFORMANCE : 1/4 MILE - 14.53E.T * MPH - 93.00 * 0-60MPH - 5.8 * 1/8 MILE - 9.2 * 60 FT - 2.0

OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 16.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon JAZ fuel cell,etc

 

Hi Neal,

Think you left enough rubber on that road?!? Sheesh!

Though I like all Fords, it was nice to see the pic of you blowing past the Mustang at the strip, you rascal, you.

Your F-150 is a great example of what can be done with the performance of these vehicles in normally aspirated trim with careful thought & a thorough approach. For example, most guys would have been happy to just bolt on their headers, but not you; you felt they were not up to your standards (how well many of us remember those posts!)& so you basically re-built them, re-welded, ground, polished, etc., and that is a good example of the kind of work that has gone into each element of modification in this vehicle.

Which is perhaps why it's running mid-14's running out of fuel at the 1000' mark, eh? With your 24#'s, that should be taken care of now.

We can't wait to see what happens (I think it's next weekend?) at your next track outing, Neal.

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
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Hi Neal

Thanks for the information, every little bit helps. Larry