5.4 Expedition - signs of Blown Head Gasket? PLEASE HELP (pics)
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5.4 Expedition - signs of Blown Head Gasket? PLEASE HELP (pics)
Today on a drive to the store, my 99 ford expedition 5.4L (147k miles) started to shake / vibrate heavily during acceleration from 5 mph to around 35mph, then it would drive like normal. I drove it the rest of the way to the store with no problems, shopped, and on the way back it was much worse. Same heavy shaking from the engine from 5 - 35mph then it would clear up after that. Then it started to make some sounds that went along with the vibrating, a putt putt putt kind of sound along with somewhat of belt squeek noise. Then came the smell of antifreeze. I pulled over, checked under the hood and saw a light chocolate looking residue on the bottom of my oil cap. I waited a little bit and drove it the rest of the way home. At some stop lights, it would have terrible acceleration, and at others, it would drive like normal. I got home and popped the hood after I shut it off and heard a hissing down by the passenger side head near the firewall. I opened the coolant container and it had some pressure in it. My oil cap had the same milkshake looking color. I then noticed down on the passenger side head, there was milkshake liquid everywhere, it was already cooked on the head but it was leaking on the frame rails so it was fresh.
Is this the sign of a blown headgasket?
Is the best way to check, to go get a pressure tester?
If anyone has had this issue, please chime in!! I'm stranded without this vehicle.
Pictures - taken from passenger side wheel well.
Is this the sign of a blown headgasket?
Is the best way to check, to go get a pressure tester?
If anyone has had this issue, please chime in!! I'm stranded without this vehicle.
Pictures - taken from passenger side wheel well.
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Yea, that milky crap can be somewhat normal. It builds and traps under the cam covers with these engines. How is it making to frame rail lol. Looks like, from the pics , it might be coming from the valve cover seal . (?). Is it or was it running hot at any time just before or somewhat recently? Well, you need to pin-point that leak. If you need to start it to do so, then so be it IMO. BUT! Clean that area up first and all residual leakage evidence. Who knows, you might find where it's coming from while doing so.
Yea, looks like it got wet at the top of head at one time. Check it good, the other side of the head can leak and it may have traveled/wrapped around. Your model year had a bur problem factory (heads/machining defect). That's where they blow, back passenger side head, but there is a few other reasons it can get wet back there as well.
Yea, looks like it got wet at the top of head at one time. Check it good, the other side of the head can leak and it may have traveled/wrapped around. Your model year had a bur problem factory (heads/machining defect). That's where they blow, back passenger side head, but there is a few other reasons it can get wet back there as well.
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The milky crap is normal, but yours is a bit excessive. I don't however see any fluids below the HG line... maybe the heater hose above has a leak. And you have a broken exhaust bolt btw
Maybe the exhaust leak is blowing it upward? Looks like it to me. I dunno.
Starting to think it has an internal HG leak and that is coolant and exhaust gasses mixed that are making that mukky film. Then maybe it's leaking out the exhaust and being blown upward near the broken manifold bolt/leak
Probably what is causing the misfires
Hydrocarbon test the coolant for any exhaust gasses. Bet it comes back positive.
Maybe the exhaust leak is blowing it upward? Looks like it to me. I dunno.
Starting to think it has an internal HG leak and that is coolant and exhaust gasses mixed that are making that mukky film. Then maybe it's leaking out the exhaust and being blown upward near the broken manifold bolt/leak
Probably what is causing the misfires
Hydrocarbon test the coolant for any exhaust gasses. Bet it comes back positive.
Last edited by Toyz; 04-19-2011 at 11:18 PM.
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It was not running hot at all, the temp gauge stays just below middle and never moves once warmed up and I watched it the entire trip that the car was acting up.
Thanks for the advice so far, Ill clean the area tomorrow and try to pinpoint the leak and also test the coolant for hydrocarbons.
Thanks for the advice so far, Ill clean the area tomorrow and try to pinpoint the leak and also test the coolant for hydrocarbons.
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Having similar issues here, but ive got 285k on the old girl, and im leaking coolant into #1 cyl...consistent misfire on #1, and going through about a gallon of coolant every 1k miles at this point..thing is, when totally warmed up, she still runs pretty dam good, so still not sure what im gonna do yet..fix it, swap motor, or maybe lightning motor...hmmmmmm
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There is a freeze plug on the passenger side block just below the #4 exhaust port. If it is leaking it will shoot hot coolant, judging by the pics dirty rusty water, up on to the manifold. The leaking manifold spews it even further onto the head and manifold. BTW the first pic is upside down.
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There is a freeze plug on the passenger side block just below the #4 exhaust port. If it is leaking it will shoot hot coolant, judging by the pics dirty rusty water, up on to the manifold. The leaking manifold spews it even further onto the head and manifold. BTW the first pic is upside down.
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Well I took this to a shop and had them diagnose it for me, they said it was definitely a head gasket and quoted me $2,650 to repair it. That is insane to me so I decided to take it home and do it myself. I replaced all gaskets with a new felpro kit, Replaced all the headbolts. Had the heads machined and magnafluxed to check for cracks and I cleaned the engine all up and put it back together. Started it up and it was good the first night. The next day I have the same exact issue. I left the exhaust manifolds disconnected from the rest of the exhaust and I was able to see coolant blowing out of the exhaust manifold pretty heavily. That explains the above pictures with the coolant blown all over the side of the block with the stud being broken. So I have the same exact issue. I am confident that I repaired the headgasket correctly, the heads are supposedly crack free. HOW ELSE IS COOLANT GETTING INTO MY ENGINE? Can it be an intake manifold problem? I see that there is coolant passages going through that thing. I am stumped and I need this thing to get me and 4 dogs to FL in less than a week.
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Are absolutely sure it's coming out the exhaust ports/manifold ? If your intake/heads were installed correctly I'd say you have a cracked head. Maybe near the water jacket.
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Put the old one the stand and get to it when I can lol.
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I would pull the sparkplugs and see if any have coolant on them. If they are all dry then you don't have a cracked head or cyl bore.When you had the heads off did you notice any one particular bore that looked washed out or the piston was cleaner than the others? I have seen porosity in the cyl heads especially right under one of the valve seats. This would allow coolant to enter the engine and if it was an exhaust valve coolant could flow out the exhaust port. You had the heads tested so thats probably a long shot. A cyl bore crack would be the most likely condition at this point but you would have a dead cyl because of the volume of coolant entering the bore. Are you getting coolant into the crankcase oil yet? Has the coolant level dropped and the engine oil level increased? Is there a leaking hose above or anywhere near the area you are seeing coolant? The one exhaust bolt that was broken off,was that a stock stud that was in the hole or did soemone drill and tap that hole out and install a bolt because it looked to me like it was a bolt and the head popped off. If so someone may have drilled into a coolant passage during an attempted repair job and its leaking coolant from that hole.
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