Traction control, how to disable auto engage?
#1
Traction control, how to disable auto engage?
Can the dealer or am i able to set the traction control to engage when i want it to, not when it its programmed to. Any of you good folks know if i can do this myself??? I hate this auto option. TIA to all.
#2
There is a big button in plain sight next to the emergency flasher button. That button disables/enables the traction control......why would you want to turn it off except maybe to do burnouts?
Last edited by Paul888; 10-26-2016 at 10:20 AM.
#3
Why would i want it on always? Thanks for letting me know bout the big button thats in plain sight that i knew about, that turns it on or off, your post is very helpful.
#4
I don't think there's any way to disable these systems unless they're on a separate fuse and you can pull the fuse. But I THINK that it's part of the BCM and can't be disabled that way. AFIK the system always turns on when you start the truck and you have to actively disable it every time. The designers of these systems are like SPAMMERS, they expect you OPT OUT instead of having to OPT IN. AFIK the only way to automatically defeat them is to connect a relay to the push button and then use a timer circuit that pulses the relay a few seconds after you start the truck.
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I don't think there's any way to disable these systems unless they're on a separate fuse and you can pull the fuse. But I THINK that it's part of the BCM and can't be disabled that way. AFIK the system always turns on when you start the truck and you have to actively disable it every time. The designers of these systems are like SPAMMERS, they expect you OPT OUT instead of having to OPT IN. AFIK the only way to automatically defeat them is to connect a relay to the push button and then use a timer circuit that pulses the relay a few seconds after you start the truck.
I know what you mean about engineers being sort of like "spammers", there like lonely dolts who feel compelled to participate and not know there place in society and contribute nothing!!
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FWIW I wouldn't be so quick to blame the engineers. Decisions like are usually made the top level of management and are driven by their lawyer's perceived fear of POSSIBLE lawsuits.
I kind of agree with Paul, why would you want to turn it off? But IMO, it's your truck and you should be able to do what you want with it.
I kind of agree with Paul, why would you want to turn it off? But IMO, it's your truck and you should be able to do what you want with it.
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#8
The timer method is the only way I know of to be able to manually set either TC or Auto start stop.
As far as why? Powering through deep mud is one reason. I'm sure there are many more.
As far as why? Powering through deep mud is one reason. I'm sure there are many more.
#9
If you're driving through deep mud and one tire is spinning enough to trigger ABS, then the only thing that "powering" would do is to dig you into a bigger and deeper hole! You can take my word as gospel on that! I've lived and driven in some of the slipperiest places that you can imagine but even there I've never felt the need automatically disable the ABS.
I agree that you, as the vehicle owner, should have the right and the ability to permanently disable any or all of the NANNY systems that Ford adds but in the case of ABS, I just don't see a good REASON to so.
#10
I know that in our later model Ford CV police cars we found a jumper in the glove box that one used to just plug into the harness at the connector after disconnecting it from the button. Effect was every time you started the vehicle, it disabled TC. When doing pursuit work, many preferred the TC disabled and doing so did tend to lengthen rear brake life .... and we had members who had been on since the '70s when they learned things like threshold braking and throttle control and how / when to use them.
I used the jumper but spliced a toggle switch in place .... open switch at start up = normal TC .... closed switch at start up = disabled TC .... and if already disabled, a simple flip open / closed enabled TC as it was a momentary command.
Did NOT affect the ABS operation.
I used the jumper but spliced a toggle switch in place .... open switch at start up = normal TC .... closed switch at start up = disabled TC .... and if already disabled, a simple flip open / closed enabled TC as it was a momentary command.
Did NOT affect the ABS operation.
Last edited by tbear853; 10-30-2016 at 04:17 PM.
#11
I probably shouldn't continue. But I will anyway.
Did you read your manual Vagabond? Depending on how long you hold that "big button that's in plain sight" the behavior will vary. Pressing it once will turn off TCS but only if you are driving in a straight line. As soon as you turn it will come back on to maintain stability control.
If you hold the button for a longer period (5 seconds maybe? check your manual) it will disable the controls for a greater range of scenarios.
I know that in our later model Ford CV police cars we found a jumper in the glove box that one used to just plug into the harness at the connector after disconnecting it from the button. Effect was every time you started the vehicle, it disabled TC.
Did NOT affect the ABS operation.
Did NOT affect the ABS operation.
As far as the original question - the only way to fully disable the TCS is to pull the fuse. This is not advisable as it will shut down every ESP function.
But maybe it will allow Darwin's law to kick in.... so...
#12
Not to be another "Stick in the mud", but also keep in mind that if you have your TC disabled by means other than the Manufacturer intended, you may be liable in case of an accident. I know some Insurance companies will go to great lengths to avoid paying out $$$.
Depending on the year and model of your truck, you can look at 5* tunes. They offer TC disabling. It's still controlled by the button and TC is on by default, but at least when you hit the TC button once, it disables ALL TC other than ABS.
Depending on the year and model of your truck, you can look at 5* tunes. They offer TC disabling. It's still controlled by the button and TC is on by default, but at least when you hit the TC button once, it disables ALL TC other than ABS.
#13
Even with TC and Advance trac off it still engages over 25 or 30mph. I Flippin Hate it! Nothing Worse than stomping the go pedal at 35 or 40 mph, Tires Break Loose and it falls on its face with everything "off"
I have the 5 star Tunes with Revisions from Jacob and it actually turns everything off when hitting the button. I can punch it at 40 mph, both tires break loose and itll go to 50mph with the tires still crying.
I know TC and Advance Trac is suppose to help us in a Emergency but i want control of the truck, Not the damn computer telling me i can't do something if i decide to be a 16 year old kid and bust some donuts or have a friendly light to light race.
I have the 5 star Tunes with Revisions from Jacob and it actually turns everything off when hitting the button. I can punch it at 40 mph, both tires break loose and itll go to 50mph with the tires still crying.
I know TC and Advance Trac is suppose to help us in a Emergency but i want control of the truck, Not the damn computer telling me i can't do something if i decide to be a 16 year old kid and bust some donuts or have a friendly light to light race.
#14
That may look and sound like fun... but you are driving much slower because of it. If you were able to feather the throttle so that you don't break the tires loose you would get much better acceleration.
While I agree that I too would enjoy more freedom (greater wheel slip) before the system kicks in, you can also look at this as "good training" that if you are getting a TCS interaction then you shouldn't be hammering the throttle so hard.
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