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Old Jan 6, 2000 | 08:21 PM
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FordBigFoot,

You will find that most people that sell amsoil because they use it themselves. For $20 a year you can purchase it at wholesale. If you service just 2 cars with it the $20 pays for it's self. Its kinda like sams wholesale.

Could you please answer me a question? why are all of the oil companies following Amsoil??
20 years ago there were no Synthetic oils except Amsoil. Now ever Tom **** and Harry makes either a full synthetic or synthetic blend. What is that all about.

They guys who got me started using it have been for over 20 years he is also a dealer in about 5 other lubes. He also has his own analysis business. He says there is no better on the market.

Most people who use/sell Amsoil keep their cars for well over 100,000 miles. There are many many people in Amsoil's archives with 600+k miles on their vehicles.

Do you think I am on here to sell this stuff. You might make me $25 in a whole year! I am wasting my time just writing this, but because I too have an F150 I like to learn about my truck on here and find out about new stuff. I make my money on Commercial accounts, Ie Truckers and Fleets who buy 55 gals at a time, plus filters and gear lubes.

So if you are done wasting my time I think I'm going to go eat my chili, and Drink my beer and pretend that it's Genessee!!


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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 12:40 AM
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Msparks,

I'm sure the other companies are following Amsoil's lead because it has a product in a niche market. The oil companies look at this as another way to fatten their bottom line. You know the same thing we both work for. $$$$ Can you blame them ?

Example: Lincoln's Navigator - sells hot, people stampeding into Lincoln dealers and it is the biggest profit margin for Ford of any vehicle they sell. So Caddy notices this and a chance to make some extra money and they have to play catch up. Almost a year later, the Escalade. Other examples are Minivans (Chysler, everybody else is still playing catch up) and the latest is 4 door pick ups and who knows who will be the king of the hill on this one??

I also have a Expy and a Lightning and wish to continue to learn from the list also.

Sorry if I am wasting your time writing this and asking you questions. I was interested in your stand on the extended drain interval using Amsoil products.

Finally, to answer your own question on , "Do you think I am on here to sell this stuff?". Well, YES I do. If you are not here trying to sell the stuff, then why do you have a link to your Amsoil home page and consistently quoting Amsoil propaganda in your posts???

Hope you enjoyed your chili and beer.

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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 12:50 AM
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ms sparks,
While doing a web search on synthetic motor oils I came across a synthetic motor oil I have never heard of. NEO synthetic oil. They claim to have started in the business in 1970 and have been the leader of synthetic oils for over 28 years. Their oil is 100% synthetic and can have extended drain intervals of 25,000 miles or 1 year. Have you ever heard of this company? You claim that Amsoil was the first one but it doesn't look like its true. On a different note, how much better really is Amsoil compared to like Mobil 1 considering availability and price. I imagine if you used a oil filtering system like Amsoil's using Mobil 1 you could also get 25,000 or 1 year. What about Royal Purple? I heard its better than any of the current synthetics even though its not 100% synthetic.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 12:51 AM
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I don't know where everyone lives who is interested, but I have the local reps card from AMSOIL here in Austin, Texas.
Here are the #'s. The first is his number. His name is David Bell.

1-512-458-1817
1-800-725-4645
1-800-777-7094 "Orders Only"



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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 09:35 AM
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OK guys,

I think it's irrelevant when a company started making its products.

There are more than a few vehicles with more than 150,000 miles on them and more using ordinary petroleum based oils without any engine problems. And probably due to exact frequency of oil and filter changes and general good maintenance procedures.

I have never heard anything detrimental about Amsoil, Redline or Mobil 1. All fine products without a doubt along with their oil filters.

However, 25,000 mile oil changes for me would occur every three years and if anyone here thinks Amsoil or any other engine lubricant would solve that problem for me then I would like to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge.

If I were an over-the-road trucker putting 250,000 miles a year on my vehicle or a traveling salesman putting 50,000 miles a year on a car then I would consider the 25,000 mile oil changes recommended by some synthetic oil companies but I don't.

Amsoil is not economically feasible for me but Mobil 1 is and I am sure any good petroleum based oil would work for me too with my absolute 3 month oil and filter changes.

I can't believe than Amsoil is not susceptable to moisture and condensation obtained from short stop-and-go driving in the winter and summer obtained from failing to meet normal operating temperatures on a daily basis. This is what my normal driving incurs.

I think a caveat should be stated about 25,000 mile oil changes regarding all this, especially if 25,000 miles would take three years to accumulate.

Amsoil and Redline positively have their uses, whether it's for high mileage diesel trucks, high mileage cars, or diesel generators that are never turned off. But I don't think even Amsoil would recommend three years between oil changes for me. These products are not made for drivers like me or those like me. It is just not economically justified.

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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 10:18 AM
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Msparks...Not here for the oil debate but I, too, like Genesee beer...drink it when I go back east, however, I seem to recall a couple of regional suds from my time in the great state of Texas...Pearl beer and Jax Beer. Do they still brew these? they tasted pretty good. We can't get any of those brews here in Central California.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 10:25 AM
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Whew, pretty intense (for all)---Whether a person uses Amsoil or Mobile 1 or Redline or whatever common brand of petroleum oil, you as a person must be satisfied-- Apparently, one must strike a balance between driving conditions, protection, warranty (for some) and cost.

Motor oil as we all know, is a matter of preference. Some of us were raised to buy oil cheap and change often. Who educated us that way---Others, as technology changed, tried different products based some on what the companies claimed and or through personal experience.

I happen to be one based on personal experience after being raised to buy cheap and change often. I too Use Amsoil not because I sell alot of the stuff (which I don't do), I became a dealer to obtain the product. After using it, I personally can say, the results are consistent with what the company states.

Now in this day and time, there are very few things that people can believe to be true at face value. I agree with what alot of people have said here--If you change petroleum oil at 3k intervals, one can go well over 100k without puking an engine or major compontent.

I on the other hand say, If your traveling in extreme hot climates like Arizona or Las Vegas (where I'm from) petroleum oil oxidizes and evaporates at a faster rate than synthetic oils irregardless of a 3k oil change or not. One good pull with a loaded vehicle in extreme hot conditions can waste a brand new oil change and you wouldn't know the condition of the oil. Rather, one would find comfort that it will be changed within 3k and therefore feel like the engine has been well cared for and protected.

I like extended drain intervals because I believe in the product through experience, not because someone is selling something. And for a lessor reason, I like the idea that I don't have to deal with a oil pan full of oil that I have to dispose of everytime I changed the oil---Usually 3k with petroleum.

I read this forum because people in general have good information to pass along. Some are more passionate than others of course. My intent was not to push a product in an offensive manner rather, to share information.

Some of us have a ton of $$ invested in our vehicles. If we didn't care about the investment or wanting the best for them, then why do we have this forum and why do we read it?

But one things for sure, it's all a matter of choice and I for one will respect the choice of others though I may not agree with it.

I am gonna have a day---Take care to all regards,



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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 11:09 AM
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FordBigfoot,

Sorry for being grumpy. I will try to answer your question
"I was interested in
your stand on the extended drain interval using Amsoil products."

I use Amsoil and I do the 1 yr/25,000 miles drain. I have a 1997 F150.
Amsoil has a written warranty. If you send me a self address stamped envelop I will send it to you.

Michael Sparks
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El Paso TX 79904

As far as selling goes yes I have a link on my signature, People are always saying how hard it is to get Amsoil. Well How hard is it to either call 1800 or order online and have it shipped to your house? I realize that you may not be able to purchase it in your hometown.

Before we get any farther out of hand. You can try Amsoil for yourself. For $10 you can get a trail membership that lasts 6 months. You get the products at wholesale. After the 6 months you either renew for $20 or you stop, no questions asked.

Note that no one is making you go 25,000 miles
5,000 10,000 15,000 or whatever makes you comfortable. If you change your oil at 5,000 then it is nice knowing that you have 5 times the protection.

If you want a trial dealership call 1 800 956-5695 this is amsoils toll free number. Ask about the dealership, they will send you a form. Also I can send you the form with my dealer number on it, I will get credit. If you call the number you will get a dealer closest to you. After you try Amsoil then report back here on the forums if you are happy with the product or not. This sounds like the most resonable solution to me.

Let me know what you think!




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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 11:23 AM
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If folks would like me to stop either putting my link, or commenting on Amsoil. Please let me know. I am on this sight to learn about my truck and to post answers to questions that I have either experience/knowledge about.

I Belive in Amsoils products, I understand that everone has there own opinions. I don't want to change anyone's mind.

Sincerly,

Michael Sparks



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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 01:18 PM
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Heck no, don't take your link off. I too believe in it very much so !! I agree, to each his own & do what makes you happy. But we want our trucks to be in great mechanical shape. I believe that Amsoil offers much better protection & wear than conventional & many synthetics. So does Redline for that fact. I just "personally" feel more comfortable with Amsoil. I just called my local store who sells Amsoil, "Vans Auto Parts" in Austin. One of the "Only" places to get it in this town & I was quoted the price of $5.73 or $5.93 per quart for 5w-30. I thought it was more than that ! Oops. Anyway, in my case, I have a friend who is a dist. mgr. for this store, so I get things discounted cheaper than even garages do. I will now start using the Amsoil in my baby since I can most likely get it cheaper than the Mobil 1 I currently use !
Basically, I want to thank all of you for this flame war on here ! hehe.. You caused me to make the phone call & check the price & realize that I can use the "Best" for less than Mobil 1 !! :-)

I think the bottom line is this.. Amsoil is better than your conv. oils. If you can afford it, use/buy it because it is better.

Don't flame me... Y'all should know how I am by now. LOL

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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 01:34 PM
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SS,

Hey, this wasn't a real flame war. You should see them on the LS1 site!

We agree that we disagree in some areas. If I could get Amsoil for the price you get it I would use it too. You Texas boys have all the luck. If you say "Amsoil" in NJ all you get is "duh."

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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 02:45 PM
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FYI,

Go to "online catalog" then to "Store"

All the prices are listed there for any quantity that you want.





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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 05:06 PM
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Msparks,

Thanks for answering my question.

I have been a little edgy lately also. My oldest daughter, whom is out on her own, is dating one of the Manson family members and the youngest at 17 is driving my wife crazy. (Which is french for: Wife is on my back constantly). Can I have one of your Genesee beers please.

Keep your link up and keep providing information to the board. I meant no harm. Just curious on your point of view.

PS: Are you still in the Army ? I retire the 28th of April with 20 years. (11 years active duty and 9 reserves).
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This was never a flame war, just a debate on different points of view. If you want flames, go to the Blue Oval News board for awhile. Sometimes they give you a bullet proof vest, nomax suit and a fire extinguisher when you log on. Things get a bit nasty over there. Not a lot of happy 99 Cobra owners right now.


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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 05:44 PM
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FordBigFoot,

I finally found Amsoil's Warranty online. I couldn't find it before, so you don't have to worry about sending me a self address stamped envelop.

Here is the link: http://intershop.amsoil.com/cgi-bin/...UserTemplate/1

Yes I am still in the Reserves. I was active for 8 years got rif'd(reduction in force) so now I'm in the reserves, My wonderful wife is the active one she is in the Ft. Bliss Army Band. I was in the band too at Ft. Campbell, KY, and Wiesbaden Germany. We've also been to Ft. McClellan before here. Just FYI

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Old Jan 7, 2000 | 05:57 PM
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I have a link on my web site now that has the warranty.

I am still in the Army Reserves, My wife is on Active Duty. I was active for 8 then got RIF'd(reduction in force). I was at FT Campbell KY 89-94, then Germany 94-97. Then my wife alone was at Ft. McClellan Al from 97-99. Now we are at Ft. Bliss. Just FYI


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