How Long Should My Truck Hold It's fuel Pressure?
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How Long Should My Truck Hold It's fuel Pressure?
It's a 1999 5.4, and I have a long crank/rough start, only after sitting for 6+ hrs or so. I replaced the fuel pump about 6months ago, because the fuel pressure was weak, and I thought it would cure the long crank issue. It did not.
The new pump ran with the same general fuel pressures:32ish when running,jumps to 42ish, with no vaccum to fuel regulator, would hold it's pressure for a few hrs, but not overnight. So I moved on, troubleshootingwise.
Changed crank position sensor, cam position sensor, cause they were cheap and easy to swap. New IAC, fuel pressure regulator, same reasoning,cheap and easy, but no change. Cleaned TB, MAF and IAT cleaned with MAF Cleaner, and little EVR filter thingy. Battery Is a new Oddyessy, holds a charge at 12.6-12.7v. I replaced all the chassis ground straps, the battery cables, and harness, starter is a new PowerMaster Hi-Torque.I was gonna try the CHT sensor next, but it looks hard to get into. So after hours of looking on the net, I'm back to thinking it's a fuel issue. Could have gotten a crappy new pump,eh?
The pump will hold it's pressure for a few hours, but by next morning, it's down to like 10. The thing that gets me thinking it's something else, though, is that even if you cycle the key to build up fuel pressure, it still will hard start/long crank.
Anyone have anything like this happen before? What's your thoughts?
The new pump ran with the same general fuel pressures:32ish when running,jumps to 42ish, with no vaccum to fuel regulator, would hold it's pressure for a few hrs, but not overnight. So I moved on, troubleshootingwise.
Changed crank position sensor, cam position sensor, cause they were cheap and easy to swap. New IAC, fuel pressure regulator, same reasoning,cheap and easy, but no change. Cleaned TB, MAF and IAT cleaned with MAF Cleaner, and little EVR filter thingy. Battery Is a new Oddyessy, holds a charge at 12.6-12.7v. I replaced all the chassis ground straps, the battery cables, and harness, starter is a new PowerMaster Hi-Torque.I was gonna try the CHT sensor next, but it looks hard to get into. So after hours of looking on the net, I'm back to thinking it's a fuel issue. Could have gotten a crappy new pump,eh?
The pump will hold it's pressure for a few hours, but by next morning, it's down to like 10. The thing that gets me thinking it's something else, though, is that even if you cycle the key to build up fuel pressure, it still will hard start/long crank.
Anyone have anything like this happen before? What's your thoughts?
Last edited by sledman62; 10-09-2013 at 08:17 AM.
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You may already know this, but the pump doesn't determine the fuel pressure; the regulator does. I don't know for certain (trying to recall my mustang days when I had a pressure gauge), but I don't think it matters, nor is it supposed to, hold that pressure for a certain/extended period of time. As long as fluid remains in the lines, the pressure would build up/return to normal pretty gosh darn fast once the pump starts running...basic physics.
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Does it smell like gas after sitting? I put new injectors on mine and with it a few months the hard start acured and it would smell like gas 10min after I shut it off. I put my old injectors in and all is good now. also, I thought fuel pressure for the expy is ok any where between 32-38. I got mine at 38 and 43 with no vacuum. I have a adjustable regulator so I can control mine. I can tell a difference when mines around 35#'s so I keep mine in the high range.
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Looks like I'm stuck again,then.Maybe spark? I replaced coils and plugs in June, Visteon and Motorcraft. What else could I look at? I thought CHT, but I used my Edge programmer to watch it today, and it seemed to respond correctly. It started around 50 and rose to 198. Ambient air temp today was around 45-50ish. The IAT temp was around 45-50 during the ride home from work, too, so they both seem to be working.
Nope, I can't smell fuel after sitting. I tried flooring it during starting, in case it was a leaky injector, but still the same long crank/hard start.
Bummer
Nope, I can't smell fuel after sitting. I tried flooring it during starting, in case it was a leaky injector, but still the same long crank/hard start.
Bummer
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