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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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hey guys so first things first...2004 F150 5.4 150K EDGE PROGRAMER, ROUSH INTAKE,FLOWMASTER EXHAUT..i have a good general understanding of how engines operate so your not talking to a inexperienced mechanic but i am also NOT a know it all......so my 2004 f150 5.4 with 150k has had a jerking issue....read up on it and i heard its most likely a coil goin bad so i continued to drive it until it threw a code so i knew which one to change(not rich cant change all)well i threw a code ok......

p0012[intake camshaft position timming over retarded bank1
p0172 system to rich bank 1
p0174 system to lean bank2
po303 cylinder 3 misfire detected
p0316 misfire detected on startup (first 1000 revolutions)
p0340 camshaft position sensor A circuit intermittent (bank 1 or single sensor)

now it runs real rough at idle....FML


so far changed coil number 3(third one back on left side)
no change

so then i unplugged coil number 1 while the engine is running and still no change in idle......then i plugged it back in and did the same to coils 2,3,4 still no change

unplugged coil 5 and idle got worse.....plugged it back in and did it again to coil 6 and idle got worse again and thats where im at

so next step is camshaft position sensor?

PLEASE let me know what you guys think......i am hoping this already happened 2 someone and i just couldnt find the thread
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 08:05 AM
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I assume the plugs have been changed ? Do the low dollar things first.....new fuel filter, clean the MAF. clean the TB. Clear all codes and re-test. Probably looking at weak coils (COPs) or at the very least the boots and dielectric grease. Sometimes a single item can trigger multiple codes.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hicknick514


so far changed coil number 3(third one back on left side)
no change
That might be because, -the third back on the left side would be coil/cylinder # 7. Which is also on bank 2.
 

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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Throwing a rich code on one bank and lean code on the other bank is indicative of something like a blown fuse or a wiring issue.

Jbrew is saying "left" = driver's side.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Throwing a rich code on one bank and lean code on the other bank is indicative of something like a blown fuse or a wiring issue.

Jbrew is saying "left" = driver's side.
Right and left of the vehicle is determined from operator vehicle correlation in motion. That would be under common sense? Well, that's where I'd put it.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Well, it's possible the OP is calling left and right from the aspect of standing in front of the truck. Just trying to clarify.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Well, it's possible the OP is calling left and right from the aspect of standing in front of the truck. Just trying to clarify.
Which is exactly what I was trying to clarify. What, you don't approve of my methods ? Geezzz....
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 05:12 AM
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Right and left of the vehicle is determined from operator vehicle correlation in motion. That would be under common sense? Well, that's where I'd put it.
Brew, I didn't kmow you knew Swahili.....
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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Brew, I didn't kmow you knew Swahili.....


I know some of it; - speak very little tho. I guess every now and again I have to purge the absorbed. So you may see a little spewage, here and there. Sorry.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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i replaced the 3rd one back left side as if you are standing in front of the motor
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 09:05 PM
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i did change the plugs at 120k
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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and the fuel filter at 147k
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 11:29 PM
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What kind of plugs did you use? From the codes, you could also have timing chain/tensioner issues due to the camshaft position error codes. Bad cam phasers will also cause the camshaft position error codes.
 

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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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Change the camshaft position sensor. Your pull valve covers and see if timing is off. Possible cam jumped some teeth like guide or tensioner is junk
 
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hicknick514
i replaced the 3rd one back left side as if you are standing in front of the motor
That helps!

Posts 13 and 14
 

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