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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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5.0 or ecoboost?

as far as what would be better for towing a bass boat?

also, what's the longevity of the ecoboost supposed to be? i would assume the turbo would shorten its lifespan?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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I don't think a bass boat is heavy enough to make much of a difference, but the EB should get better gas mileage and allegedly will have more power.

As far as longevity is concerned, there are a LOT of threads going here speculating on that.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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If it was me I'd go with the 5.0. JMO
In regards to longevity with turbos. Turbos have been used for decades in Europe with excellent results. I personally don't think durability is going to be a concern. Anything new is always suspect thats just our nature but in reality turbos are only a relatively new item here in the states. With the new and improved oils and engine technology they should run as long as a naturally aspirated engine.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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I talked to a guy that test drove both and he said the EB had way more power!

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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On paper the EB looks like the way to go for towing. I'd love to do some real world driving with both to see what I liked better. What ever happened to the old saying "There's no substitute for cubic inches!"??

Why not a 6.2?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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I actually had the chance to drive both the EB and the 5.0 trucks at a recent Ford event. Either would be a fine choice for towing a bass boat. The 3.5 V6 EB really puts out the power for a smaller displacement engine and the 6 sp auto trans in each of them seem to be geared well to the power bands. I towed 6250 lbs some only with the EB engined truck and it did fine. Turbos have been around now a good while and a lot of the early issues with them seem to be gone. Engine oils are improved these days for lubrication and the EB turbos are even water cooled to help longevity I suppose.
 

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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
On paper the EB looks like the way to go for towing. I'd love to do some real world driving with both to see what I liked better. What ever happened to the old saying "There's no substitute for cubic inches!"??

Why not a 6.2?
Thinking the same thing? I guess economic reasons may play a factor.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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The EB 6 5.0 puts my 5four to shame. That thing does it all @ 1700 Rpms. It will spin the tires from a roll with a load. Fords dominated the Market with that one.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Why not a 6.2? It's only available in high end trucks and it gets lousy gas mileage. Ford has to limit availability to comply with CAFE standards.

The EB 6 5.0 puts my 5four to shame.
Not trying to be picky, but those are 2 different engines. The EB 6 is 3.5 liters and the 5.0 is a NA V-8.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Ford engineers have a few videos out, I've seen one of them in GD on this site. They have a shoot-out between manufacturers brands. The Fords are way out front with power and torque for their petrol engines.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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I think the biggest determining factor for people may be the sticker shock on the EB option at least thats what I'm hearing. But if gas keeps going up they may be a better deal long term. I guess Canada can't make enough 5.0 aluminum engines for the Mustang and apparently the truck version will remain a cast iron block. Sounds like a 5.8 could be made as a niche engine for Mustang as well with limited production. The peak power numbers are very impressive. I like the numbers on the 5.0 and I think I could still work on it if I had to. It sure is nice to see the engine options Ford is offering though.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Just my opinion. No real verifiable facts. But I like them both.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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I say 5.0 just because it's a V8. I'm willing to bet that it's going to respond quite well to bolt-ons.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Turbos have been used for decades in Europe with excellent results.
I'll agree that the Euros have turbos and haven't had any issues but the Euros are also running much faster engine speeds. Typically, the EB is going to be running at 1800 rpms at hiway speeds. the Euros will be running above 2500 rpms. That's a lot of cooling capacity from the incoming air charge that the EB is not going to see. Considering the standard axle is a 3.55 and the tries keep growing in diameter, this engine is going to be running a lot in boost. Ford has already stated that this engines combustion temps are over 1400F- that's a lot of heat. While I'm sure they've worked this engine over pretty good, in an F-150 is a totally different environment than a Fusion. So I'm reserving judgement until the real world gets to have their go at it. Personally, I'd avoid this one until it has some history behind it in a truck environment.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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I wish there would have been more development in the their diesels.
 
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