At that point again trying to see what I want to do with the motor in my 2005 fx4. I at first thought a ticking sound was coming out of the inside and was going to rebuild it...turns out it was a spark plug issue. Now i am looking into rebuilding it again...but I dont want a high dollar big name forged beast that can handle 1000 hp and cost 8-10k. What I would like is a fresh motor with forged rods and pistons (and maybe crank) with the ford racing hot rod cams (mainly for sound) and be able to wind the motor to 6k (not necessary but wouldn't mind it). I might have found someone willing to rebuild the motor and let me supply the piston rods and cams. I have no idea what to get (other than the cams) as far as brand or specs. I am not looking for top of the line but also not bottom of the barrel. Also is there anything else I should get or do...rings for the pistons...bolts...or will OEM everything else get me to my goal. I would like to one day run a whipple at 12 to 14 psi...pump gas and semi ok gas millage and make 450-500 rwhp and be RELIABLE.

Should I just do something like this http://www.modmaxracing.com/product_p/99025254.htm

So give me your thoughts please.

Thanks

 

Good kit. Get the Manley parts if you pull the trigger. Use caution winding her up to 6k. The stock trans and converter especially will not like it. Also stick with the .020 over. Theres very little space between the cylinders as it is. You don't won't heat building up. You may also want to look as built short or long blocks. You may come out $$ ahead verses the machine work.

 

Probably be best going the short block route....

 

So yall think buying a built short block and then having someone take out old LB rebuild heads and install on shortblock then install. I am just trying to be budget minded...I dont know all the places to call about motors but I get quotes like 8500 for long blocks and can handle 1000hp...I dont need all that so it seems it can be done cheaper.

I called MMR and they have a long block assembled for 6900 it seems (forged bottom end and stock top going off the mod600 mustang gt setup they said its the same for the 5.4) but I hear some good and bad about them so I dont know. I have a friend making 900rwhp in a gt500 with there motor with no issues...but I read about others having them.

I know the stock trans and converter wouldnt like the 6k...I would keep it to 5 until they got rebuilt too. Truck has 155k on it so im sure it could use it.

 

http://www.foxlakeracing.com/modular.php

 

I sent them a email...if I read the site right that could be 3695 for the sb, 495 for the timing set, 1599 for them to disassemble the heads port and rebuild, and 600 to make it into a long block 6389 total. Not sure if that is a add timing cover valve cover and oil pan ready to drop in motor. I really dont need the port job if that would save a bunch.

 

Got a email back from fox lake...I like what I got back from him. Other price I got so far was 1300 more and I would still need to add the price of the frpp cams.

I would have to decide on 3 things...the crank, the cams, and if I want to build the f250 motor or just use mine and deal with the down time.

This is what he sent me...sounds sound to yall? If I skipped the crank and cams it could be as low as 5800 for a strong long block assembled!

best thing to do is send your whole engine in[375.00 to disassemble engine.] and have it rebuilt.the prices your looking at for the short block are accurate.minus 200.00 for using your block over vs a new iron 2-v block.so SB is 3495.00 and you probably dont need the porting on the heads but youll need everything else[includes installing cams if you to put hot rod cams in,we can supply them or you can] which is 999.00 the melling billet oil pump 310.00, new oil pump pick up 68.00,new timming set for the 3-v is around 580.00 from ford.ARP 2000 head studs are 369.00,felpro mls head gaskets are 159.00,all other gaskets are around 290-300.00,then to build it to a long block is 600.00 and includes putting it all back together including timming it,installing heads,oil pump,pickup,oil pan,balancer.so the total rebuild would be around 7255.00 plus shipping back.you could save 450.00 if we used your stock crank over but we still need to change the pistons and rods.this set up would be good for 7-800 hp to the tire [forged crank] 5-600 stock crank.

 

Not bad.....Ron is a great guy to deal with.....lots of positive feed back on his mustang builds and head work!

 

I have heard of them having a mustang and being on those kinds of forums...I didnt think about them when I was trying to call around. I talked to jdm bbr and livernoise...probably all great shops but pricy.

Here is a vid of the f250 longblock I have and how its sitting. In a warehouse...not in the rain...totally dry...but subject to south Louisiana heat cold and humidity. Been sitting for a couple years. I dont know if the vid even helps anyone determine if its safe and wise to use...I just know little about it looking at it like that. And the heads and crank are all sitting loose from when it was installed...guess theres rust on the inside? I have seen the shows where they clean them up pretty good so I am guessing it looks ok. Next to it is the intake manifold fuel rails and intake and wires....im assuming I wouldnt need any of that just used whats on my truck now when its swapped...and I guess the f150 timing cover with the pulleys and whatnot.

And it looks like it has a 8bolt crank right...forged!





http://youtu.be/1nGnhi0BW9s

 

Kewl!....hopefully they're isn't a whole lot of rust on the inners....

 

So if there is too much rust inside it cant be cleaned up enough? Anyway for me to check that easily? I dont want to get in a situation where I would send this motor off (pay for shipping) and have it torn down (pay for tear down) for me to be told...no good lol.

 

It should be fine. Heck some builders chunk the block outside the back of the shop for a year to season the bkock abd then do the build.

 

It should be alright......

 

It would be very cool if I could use this one...no down time and already has a forged crank. That would make it a 6800 forged long block with the hot rod cams. Still not sure on those...id love the sound...but it is a grand...and I dont know about tuning issues and drive ability with them. I read that since they are not "blower" cams you loose 1-2lbs of boost...but if im only looking to run 12-14 for 450-500rwhp I dont think that would be an issue. And then before the blower will it be real week down low (might already be a tad lower compression with the forged pistons?) I will need to talk to fox lake more about it I guess.

 

I just got a new 5.4 long block out of Spokane wa for $2400, 3yr warranty or 100000miles.