Ya know.....I'm sitting here reading about the spitters and stickers on these F150 motors and it's killing me that my beloved Ford company would let this fester. I was lucky in that when I did my 03 5.4 plugs a few miles ago I didn't have any problems....other than #3 and #5 (or #7??) was a little low on initial back out torque.

We know Ford came back to their roots with the early Mustang look. I'm wondering if they should come back with an early F100/150 look AND engine design that doesn't have these plug problems???? Reading some of these repetitive stories you guys are having leaves me shaking my head.

C'mon Ford....get your act together...@#$%!!!!

Sign me......"The John Who's Looking For Something Old"

 

That's why I wanted the good old V6... an engine that never has much of an issue.

At least I got a prehistoric dinosaur in a 21st century look.

 

I miss real metal trim inside mainly. And I want curved dash towards the driver appearance like in some of the older 80's trucks. Somewhat like a big rig dash.

But yes, the spark plugs need to be revised, what is the POINT of plug holes that deep and that hard to change anyways?

 

I think all of the truck makers should re-evaluate their products. All of these half ton trucks are bloated pigs and getting to be near worthless as a TRUCK. They are dandy open trunk soccer mom cars but there isn't much truck left in them. As a comparison, I have several 74 F-100s around and a 2004 SCrew. The SCrew is next to impossible to get something as large as a 12 pack out of the bed if it is in the middle of the bed. It's too tall to reach over the sides and too tall to reach in from the tailgate- I'm 6'4". My 74s you can reach over the sides and get anything. The 74s will carry 1500 lbs and you hardly know it's back there but the SCrew just about pukes at 500 lbs. Yeah, the new ones are nice, no doubt, but they aren't trucks anymore. I'm hopeful that Ford bring the global Ranger to the US as they have planned. It's a little smaller than the old F-100s and should have a V6 diesel option. It's also a little bigger than the midsize trucks like the Taco and has a carrying capacity of 1500 lbs. With any luck at all Ford will bring it to the US and not gut the function of the truck for the glitz.

 

Over head Cams is why they are so deep

 

That and the need to fit into the combustion chamber with 3 valves in there.

 

That is crap, there are a lot of three valve overhead engines that dont have deep plugs. They just screwed up bigtime.

 

I tend not to agree, the 2004-2008's will out Tow,Haul,& are just screwed together much better than anything from the 70's era! Let's not even talk about frame technology......

 

i wish ford didn't make the modular engines so wide and stuck the plugs in the side ,thats the only thing i can complain about. my little 302 has all the room in the world in the engine bay. for a tune up all i need is a socket and ratchet, no extensions or swivels or special sockets and such. i like the plain and simple stuff, thats why i wish the old carbureted motors got better fuel mileage.

 

Are over head cams a nessecity? Does that technology increase fuel economy/power ect? I think I'd swap technology with easier to change plugs!

 

Ford is working on a better engine. The new6.2 V8 will have a larger bore spacing so there will be more room a large bore and for bigger valves. Now for a 281 cu inch engine the 4.6 packs quite a wallop. More than the 302 anyways. Gets better gas mileage too. The 2 valve is no longer in production or almost so the plug issue is a mute point. Anyways it was addressed in the 2003 engine. The 3 valve plugs are a problem but that is in the process of being corrected. By the time that it is fixed the modular engine will have been phased out for the new engine.

JMC

 

I can almost asure you that Ford won't go backward on motors.
They can't afford to.
Look in the March 2008 issue of HOT ROD mag page 18 and read about the new motor, which gets it first and second.
Then look on page 98 to see one reason they can't go backwards.

 

I don't have that mag and all the stores that do are closed so I am going to wonder all night..... Please enlighten me.

JMC

 

Not really. Yes. Then by a chevy, they are still push rod engines.

 

the new ford 6.2 v8 is too