No where that I know of, not from Ford itself - Let me know if you find something like that , I want to know exactly when myself..

Thanks

 

Then how do you know those numbers on power?

 

Labnerd was kind enough to give us the inside scoop - Like he said @ the bottom "It's going to be an exciting decade for Ford"


I for one , can't wait. The 6 speed will be available this fall , that's in writing from Ford.

 

Well , just found out that we lost another good guy on the site. Same reason as in the past . Half the people that get helped here think your working for them and don't even as much as say thank you. Worst of all, another member chimes in just to start an argument. I just went thru that, It gets old. Yea , don't worry I'm almost cooked as well.

 

Who left now? You ever find MGDFan?

Its a wonder how people can manage to stay on here for such a long time and not get burned out. Im surprised we dont lose more people.

 

Your right... I do ask a few questions that i could have searched for.... My bad. So i did a lil looking and found a couple articles. It seems the 3.6l is the design for the engine but its guna be a 4.4l. I have found three differnt sites that claim differnt gains.... But i have found it will average about 300 hp and 450 to 500 torque.


http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...o_offer_d.html

http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/

 

I've discussed this once before on here, and I got all sorts of abstract comments... but I thought I was correct.

Anyhow people have looked towards the gasoline engine for way too long as a power source.

Rudolf Diesel had a great idea on his invention... and still is today.

Personally... I wish gasoline engines would just be abolished.... it's just OLD technology.

What I find amusing is that there is barely any books in a public library about diesel engine... they all have gasoline engines in a large fashion. I guess Rudolf would've been upset to see this.

Anyhow... VW is making a 70 mpg diesel that is much cleaners than any gas engine... so... Ford should adopt the same principle and get 30 to 35 mpg out of a light pickup.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blog...s/4219904.html

 

Manufacturers are not going to purposely build a vehicle that will not sell just to try and sway public opinion. They exist to make money.

There is going to have to be a fundemental shift in the way the US views diesel engines before you are going to see them used very widely here. Europe loves them, people in the US hate them. They're noisy, perceived to be dirtier, require more routine maintenance (making them more expensive to operate in the short term) and have traditionally never been up to performance levels of gasoline engines for normal drivers.

Past forays into diesel offerings that were considerably less than reliable have just created a negative image of them in the US.

My parents owned a diesel car for about 6 months when I was a kid during the last gas crunch. I don't remember what it was. I do remember that when it got cold, you could forget going anywhere because it wouldn't start. Sure, it had a block heater... my dad tried to plug it in two or three different times and blew the fuses in the house. He couldn't get rid of that car fast enough. Those type things and the resultant stories have stuck in a lot of people's minds.

 

Well... today's diesels are much better made. Especially with new composite materials such as compacted graphite heads and engine blocks. Also, the oils that are out today for diesels are truely made for diesel engines.

Not to mention the fuel... it has the reactive properties necessary for better combustion even in the worst situations.

Diesel has come a long way... and if the focus were to switch from gas to diesel... it would only make the world 50x greener.

Personally... I was amazed at how clean diesel burns today, with the DPF filters and the ULSD diesel... not to mention advances in engine quieting devices... it's hard to believe that some diesels really are diesels, because they are quiet, barely have a "diesel" odor. It's a winner in my books.

 

Must have been an Oldsmobile, quack. Those were a disaster. When they ran, they *did* get 30 mpg on the highway in a full size sedan compared to 20 at best in the same car with a doggy small gas V8.

 

You're preaching to the choir. I would personally be much better off if everyone went diesel.

I was just attempting to explain what was going on with the passenger car / light truck diesel market. All of the manufacturers are hedging their bets that diesel half tons are going to sell. The jury is still out on that one given the current price of fuel and the yet unkown mileage numbers for this new engine. I may be wrong, but my personal belief is that things in this country are going to get deadly serious if the price of gasoline and diesel jumps to the level they are projecting this coming summer. I suppose that's a topic for another thread, though.

glc, I can't remember what it was. I was young enough and it didn't last long enough to burn into my long term memory. I do remember the fit that my mother threw the first time he plugged it into the garage outlet and shut the entire house down.

 

Eldorado - They were front wheel drive as well.

Buddy of mine(engineer) left Ford and went to GM , late seventies early eighties. Although I'm not sure the diesel Eldorado's went into production, I road in one lol. He brought it to the house. I also remember him bringing a short bed sh^t bingle brown 1/2 ton GMC Pickup home that had a 455 w/Tornado front wheel drive axle under it lol..

 

Gas Mileage web site:
http://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/09/23/...0-gas-mileage/

Diesel Forecast:
http://www.dieselforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=208

Auto Week Magazine:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60619004/1041

Navistar sue Ford over 4.4 Liter Diesel V8:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/07/n...-diesel-engin/

Flaming 6.4 Liter!!!!!!!:
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stor...p10/page2.html

Enjoy!!!!

 

Pure speculation... and a whole lot of it is extremely dated, at that.

 

The majority of research will return late 2006 results. I believe Ford is reluctant to release any information due to the Navistar lawsuits that are in play at the moment. In fact since Navistar has announced it's intentions to sue Ford, ford hasn't said anything about the 4.4 in it's press releases. As for speculation... isn't that what it's all about. I mean no one can say for sure what anything will do unitl it does the "real world" tests. If Gm is in fact releasing the 4.5 Liter Duramax Diesel V8 for the late 2009 early 2010 1/2 pickups, you can bet your paycheck that Ford is right behind them.