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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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I own a 2001 F-150 XLT Super Cab with a 4.6 (115K miles) under the hood. I would like to be able to tow my show car (5000lbs) from state to state on an 18ft. tandem axle trailer I know that my truck isn't exactly what you would call a decent tow-rig, but I need to make it work. What mods could make my truck more capable of such a task? So far, I have installed a cold air intake, and a Diablo Tuner Program. I have not changed any of the parameters in the tune, but I will if you have any suggestions on which to mess with(ie.timing, shift firmness, fuel curve, etc.) I also have a Hidden Hitch behind my roll-pan (class 3). I know this is a pretty deep request for suggestions, but I will appreciate any.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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sounds like your good to go, i would just keep it like it is, maybe install electric fans to keep it running cool and pick up about 12hp
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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That isn't a tremendous load, and while it is at the upper level of that truck's capacity I wouldn't be overly concerned

The electric fan is a good idea. Adding a separate tranny cooler or temp gauge might be a good idea as well. The latter is fairly easy and a great way to keep tabs on the tranny. Install the gauge and drive normally for a bit to determine a "baseline". Then tow the trailer w/load around a bit. To simulate worst-case, find a hill and shift to 2nd even if you don't need to, drive about 40mph. Try to do this for a couple minutes to determine your "peak" temp. Poke around the net to find what your trans normally runs at, and determine from that if you need a tranny cooler.

If your trailer has electric brakes, make sure you use them. If not, consider adding them. A load like that can easily double your stopping distance relying solely on the truck's brakes.

If you're willing to get a little dirty, you could change the gears in the rear axle. Try to find 3.55 or even 4.10. Fuel economy will suffer a bit but you'll save a lot of wear on the motor and trans.

I would stray away from screwing around with the tuning of the motor. The pre-programmed parameters should be fine. You're not going to be setting speed records with that trailer anyway. Personally I wouldn't use any chip for hauling, but that's just me.

Driving habits play a big role.
-Try to avoid using the A/C whenever possible, and if you need to don't leave it on all the time(turn it off when the cab gets cool).
-You're in a truck hauling a trailer, and you're not Tony Stewart. Don't feel the need to be keeping up with traffic. Staying at 65 on the highway instead of the usual 73-75 can save gas and unnecessary wear.
-Don't be afraid to downshift. Downshifting and bumping the RPM's up is better than "grinding" the motor in a lower gear until the trans finally shifts down by itself. If you want to play with the tuner, this would be the place for it. Set shifts earlier rather than later to minimize strain on the motor. You won't save any gas having the pedal floored in 4th at 2000rpm versus running 3000 RPM in 3rd. You WILL save tremendous strain on the motor. With a load like that, I would keep O/D off all the time(It will also save your brakes going downhill).
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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You're pretty much required for atleast electric trailer brakes, which a carhauler like that would most likely come with them new as it's a law or something for certain GVW?

Get yourself a Prodigy controller, good to go. Leave overdrive on unless it starts hunting for gears, then keep it off.

Maybe get a trans temp gauge? Autometer has a nice selection.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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I agree with Ra, a 4.10 in the differential would be the best thing if you're gonna be hauling that rig a lot..
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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I agree with Ra, a 4.10 in the differential would be the best thing if you're gonna be hauling that rig a lot..
Where would be a good place to purchase a 4.10 for my truck? Will I need anything besides the gear, like a new differential in the rear end?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Where would be a good place to purchase a 4.10 for my truck? Will I need anything besides the gear, like a new differential in the rear end?
i used drivetrainwarehouse.com for my 4.88's. i would recommend you have a limited slip of some type for just in case if you dont already have one.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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i used drivetrainwarehouse.com for my 4.88's. i would recommend you have a limited slip of some type for just in case if you dont already have one.

what Klitch said x2.. look around online if you can wait for delivery and install yourself, or just ask around to any pu performance shop near you.. not that hard to do-it-yourself, just very, very messy.. LOL...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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man its messy. this is my FOURTH time going into the rear end because i chose an inferior locker unit. oh and because for some reason my ring gear shucked some of the bolts out of it twice WITH red locktite... i solved that with 2 small tack welds on the head of the bolt... mmm thats gonna be f'n fun to undo when i put in my detroit locker.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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The detroits are King of the crop - shoulduh did that to begin with

chirp chirp chip chirp chirp - now that's a nice rear


Watcha wann bet 4:10's actually could improve MPG's overall..
 

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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yeah but i bought that when i was makin 8.50 /hr
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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Agreed with Klitch, 4.10s are a must, and I have read more than one thread saying that they're the best thing since sliced bread with the 4.6L. Also, you should see an increase in city milage, and only a drop in highway milage above 70mph.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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Shut off O/D. It won't likely pull it except down hill anyway. Try and keep the converter locked up whenever possible. It is better to lose a few mph up a small hill and keep the converter locked than trying to maintain speed and downshifting or unlocking the TC.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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yeah but i bought that when i was makin 8.50 /hr

You back to minimum wage ?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dungeoncustom
I own a 2001 F-150 XLT Super Cab with a 4.6 (115K miles) under the hood. I would like to be able to tow my show car (5000lbs) from state to state on an 18ft. tandem axle trailer I know that my truck isn't exactly what you would call a decent tow-rig, but I need to make it work. What mods could make my truck more capable of such a task? So far, I have installed a cold air intake, and a Diablo Tuner Program. I have not changed any of the parameters in the tune, but I will if you have any suggestions on which to mess with(ie.timing, shift firmness, fuel curve, etc.) I also have a Hidden Hitch behind my roll-pan (class 3). I know this is a pretty deep request for suggestions, but I will appreciate any.
Thanks,
Adam
I would by a new set of gears...and there are comp. tuning things you can by for the truck for towing...you should be able to google it. I've seen it on speed channel.
 
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