Removed Catalytic Converters
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From: Vienna, Georgia
Originally Posted by Bluegrass
Guys your arguing all over the board on these things.
The $1100 is the assembled Ford price for the whole replacment.
Cats alone are indeed in the $70 range.
As far as the cats on the truck, it is federal law. The truck had to leave the factory with cats and the dealer could not sell a truck that did not meet federal law. Forget what the state position may or may not be. You travel out of area/state etc and your technically in violation if the truck does not meet federal standards.
Arguing all over the topic just to argure is foolish. You can't get around this no matter how you try.
As far as flow capacity of a cat, the originals flow more than enough for stock engines or even the normal mods that are done so you will not see any gains from replacing with higher flowing units.
This more and bigger must be better mentality only waste money chasing false implications of higher power and/ or better fuel mileage.
Common sense is the better route to consider at all times as well as some education on the subject under consideration.
The $1100 is the assembled Ford price for the whole replacment.
Cats alone are indeed in the $70 range.
As far as the cats on the truck, it is federal law. The truck had to leave the factory with cats and the dealer could not sell a truck that did not meet federal law. Forget what the state position may or may not be. You travel out of area/state etc and your technically in violation if the truck does not meet federal standards.
Arguing all over the topic just to argure is foolish. You can't get around this no matter how you try.
As far as flow capacity of a cat, the originals flow more than enough for stock engines or even the normal mods that are done so you will not see any gains from replacing with higher flowing units.
This more and bigger must be better mentality only waste money chasing false implications of higher power and/ or better fuel mileage.
Common sense is the better route to consider at all times as well as some education on the subject under consideration.
Thanks for all the advice. I know it is illegal. I am not going to chop my newly installed pipes off and replace them with cats. If I go to jail, ya'll please come and visit me.
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Its a free country
Please feel free to do what ever you want to modify your truck. It is a free country.
But let me make 2 points
1. tampering with emissions systms is illegal. But it is your decision. I just wonder why this site even allows posts that encourage tampering.
2. some people driving the streets suffer from respiratory problems. internal combustion emissions are a pollutant. Air pollution can trigger asthma attacks and other problems like bronchitis etc. if you child or spouse had respiratory problems would you do something to increase the severity of there illness?
But let me make 2 points
1. tampering with emissions systms is illegal. But it is your decision. I just wonder why this site even allows posts that encourage tampering.
2. some people driving the streets suffer from respiratory problems. internal combustion emissions are a pollutant. Air pollution can trigger asthma attacks and other problems like bronchitis etc. if you child or spouse had respiratory problems would you do something to increase the severity of there illness?
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From: Lakeland, Florida
Hey Chester
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
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Originally Posted by JASON'S98S/C4X4
Hey Chester
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
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From: Seabrook,NH
Originally Posted by JASON'S98S/C4X4
Hey Chester
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
I will come and vist you, what size motor do you have I am thinking about cutting out my cats. My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
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Originally Posted by chester8420
I'm not positive, but I'm about 90% sure that the service rep I spoke to said that the $1100 was for the cat(s) alone. At the time, I didn't know that aftermarket ones were that cheap and nobody even mentioned them at either of the stores I went to.
Thanks for all the advice. I know it is illegal. I am not going to chop my newly installed pipes off and replace them with cats. If I go to jail, ya'll please come and visit me.
Thanks for all the advice. I know it is illegal. I am not going to chop my newly installed pipes off and replace them with cats. If I go to jail, ya'll please come and visit me.
$300 total, including modifiying the original setup (removed one set of cats (vics have 4)) and providing a place for the O2 sensor.
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Originally Posted by JASON'S98S/C4X4
My question is if cats are so important why dont the big diesel trucks have them.
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Chill Out
Georgia Cop--Chill out and quit waving your badge around. Buford Pusser and Wyatt Earp will outclass you every time.
Chester--Your youth speaks volumes. Carter was the best president ever? The man is a socialist whack-job from hell, and only yourself and perhaps 12 other people from south Georgia see it differently.
You should know better than to run your head about cutting off cats on a forum on the WORLD WIDE WEB! That's what the www stands for! If you do things like that, you need to keep it to yourself and not broadcast to the world that you are breaking federal law. Some day, you will understand that to spend a token amount of money to get your exhaust in compliance not only is the right thing to do, but it's worth the peace of mind and shows integrity.
Chester--Your youth speaks volumes. Carter was the best president ever? The man is a socialist whack-job from hell, and only yourself and perhaps 12 other people from south Georgia see it differently.
You should know better than to run your head about cutting off cats on a forum on the WORLD WIDE WEB! That's what the www stands for! If you do things like that, you need to keep it to yourself and not broadcast to the world that you are breaking federal law. Some day, you will understand that to spend a token amount of money to get your exhaust in compliance not only is the right thing to do, but it's worth the peace of mind and shows integrity.
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Well put Dixie! Now what about all of the oxygen censers that might be on the cats! I know that the 01 models have 4 through out the exhust system and if you remove the cat you are removing some censers and in turn that may give you problems down the road later.
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Originally Posted by Pumper419
Well put Dixie! Now what about all of the oxygen censers that might be on the cats! I know that the 01 models have 4 through out the exhust system and if you remove the cat you are removing some censers and in turn that may give you problems down the road later.
Now, as for you dixie, I came on this site to ask advice about the function and longevity of my truck. I know that it's illegal, but so is not wearing your seatbelt. I was not expecting everybody to try and be my mama about it.
OK, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT REMOVING CATALYTIC CONVERTERS FROM YOUR TRUCK IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!
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From: Easton, Pa.
Hey Chester, don't worry about it any longer. Run your truck and be happy.
You just live in a little corner of the world that hasn't fully been caught up with yet. Just think if you lived in Cali and had to have a cat on you tractor and lawn mower or be arrested on you own property for taking it off.
The rest of you guys.........leave the young man along!
Later in life he will get to enjoy what most of us have to put up with now.
You just live in a little corner of the world that hasn't fully been caught up with yet. Just think if you lived in Cali and had to have a cat on you tractor and lawn mower or be arrested on you own property for taking it off.
The rest of you guys.........leave the young man along!
Later in life he will get to enjoy what most of us have to put up with now.
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From: Topeka, Kansas
Originally Posted by dixieF150scab
Georgia Cop--Chill out and quit waving your badge around. Buford Pusser and Wyatt Earp will outclass you every time.
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Originally Posted by dixieF150scab
Georgia Cop--Chill out and quit waving your badge around. Buford Pusser and Wyatt Earp will outclass you every time.
Chester--Your youth speaks volumes. Carter was the best president ever? The man is a socialist whack-job from hell, and only yourself and perhaps 12 other people from south Georgia see it differently.
You should know better than to run your head about cutting off cats on a forum on the WORLD WIDE WEB! That's what the www stands for! If you do things like that, you need to keep it to yourself and not broadcast to the world that you are breaking federal law. Some day, you will understand that to spend a token amount of money to get your exhaust in compliance not only is the right thing to do, but it's worth the peace of mind and shows integrity.
Chester--Your youth speaks volumes. Carter was the best president ever? The man is a socialist whack-job from hell, and only yourself and perhaps 12 other people from south Georgia see it differently.
You should know better than to run your head about cutting off cats on a forum on the WORLD WIDE WEB! That's what the www stands for! If you do things like that, you need to keep it to yourself and not broadcast to the world that you are breaking federal law. Some day, you will understand that to spend a token amount of money to get your exhaust in compliance not only is the right thing to do, but it's worth the peace of mind and shows integrity.
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