Last Ford for me
Originally posted by BSP
I drive my machines not like some of you people. Fords cant take the daily driving let alone the abuse I put it through. I own a camaro, had it for years, never failed me. These F150's may be OK for women to go shopping in but not for men doing men work!
I drive my machines not like some of you people. Fords cant take the daily driving let alone the abuse I put it through. I own a camaro, had it for years, never failed me. These F150's may be OK for women to go shopping in but not for men doing men work!
GMC=Gotta Mechanic Comin'.
BTW, I own a 44 Magnum. Had it for years too. Never failed me either. Never use it, but it's never failed me. Anybody care? Didn't think so.
Just out of curiosity, what does BSP stand for? In my line of work it's British Standard Pipe, but I bet this forum could come up with some very colorful alternatives. LOLLLL
SL
You're preaching to a Construction Manager who has worked construction for 15 years. Look around any construction jobsite and count the number of Ford Pickups vs. Chevy Pickups.
I'm outta here.
I'm outta here.
BTW, my dad bought a Chevy Van back in '87.......had a 4.3 and it was a gas hog. Also, there was a rust spot the size of a baseball on the drivers' side 6 months after he bought it, even though he washed it regularly. I am a Ford man for life.
Just thought i would add my 2 cents.....
We have all Chevy trucks at one shop and all Fords at another. I work with the Chevys and we have a dually that for some reason likes to eat the hell out of the passenger side rotors,(at 200 clams a pop thats gets expensive) the windows keep breaking, and had to get a new engine at 20,000 miles cause it was smoking so bad with bad heads. Ohh... and a new transmission at i think 55000 miles. I would put the thing in drive and it took 4 or 5 seconds to actually go. Its a POS. 2000 with the 6 lieter gas motor too. one of the others is a 94 chevy that has a horrible valve tick. but otherthen that its a decent truck. We only tow medium duty with these trucks usually.. sometimes heavy. However the fords at the other shop are all superduty and we use them to tow skidsteers, rollers and other HEAVY paving equipment. So we have a pretty good varitety. never heard much about things happening with the Fords.....not saying it doenst happen...but i never hear about it. And Im not one of those brand loyal type of guys either.
But let me tell you... Our mechanic drives a Ford diesel... and when he trades his truck in... he gets a Ford diesel. Not to mention when i bought my truck I looked it up on consumer reports for used cars and the Ford f150s were the best of the best.... and the chevy half ton and s10s were the worst of the worst... Not even in the middle! So that made my mind up. I guess i will see if Consumer Reports knows what they are talking about.... But im assuming they do.
We have all Chevy trucks at one shop and all Fords at another. I work with the Chevys and we have a dually that for some reason likes to eat the hell out of the passenger side rotors,(at 200 clams a pop thats gets expensive) the windows keep breaking, and had to get a new engine at 20,000 miles cause it was smoking so bad with bad heads. Ohh... and a new transmission at i think 55000 miles. I would put the thing in drive and it took 4 or 5 seconds to actually go. Its a POS. 2000 with the 6 lieter gas motor too. one of the others is a 94 chevy that has a horrible valve tick. but otherthen that its a decent truck. We only tow medium duty with these trucks usually.. sometimes heavy. However the fords at the other shop are all superduty and we use them to tow skidsteers, rollers and other HEAVY paving equipment. So we have a pretty good varitety. never heard much about things happening with the Fords.....not saying it doenst happen...but i never hear about it. And Im not one of those brand loyal type of guys either.
But let me tell you... Our mechanic drives a Ford diesel... and when he trades his truck in... he gets a Ford diesel. Not to mention when i bought my truck I looked it up on consumer reports for used cars and the Ford f150s were the best of the best.... and the chevy half ton and s10s were the worst of the worst... Not even in the middle! So that made my mind up. I guess i will see if Consumer Reports knows what they are talking about.... But im assuming they do.
Originally posted by BSP
I drive my machines not like some of you people. Fords cant take the daily driving let alone the abuse I put it through. I own a camaro, had it for years, never failed me. These F150's may be OK for women to go shopping in but not for men doing men work!
I drive my machines not like some of you people. Fords cant take the daily driving let alone the abuse I put it through. I own a camaro, had it for years, never failed me. These F150's may be OK for women to go shopping in but not for men doing men work!
BSP get a life you loser!!!!you should be thrown in jail for condemning a great vehicle like the F-150.Where I am from Ford is for sure the main rig on the coastal towns ....You must be a real mainlander to come up with the ideas you have in your head.The trucks can handle it but you don't look after it.Put parts on it when you need to not when it falls apart.You make me sick to think of how you even got a license.
Hmmm....
My experience as a farmer: You get a F150 or a 3/4 ton other brand and they are about equal in getting the job done - almost. I have two F150's that get the living crap beat out of them by the workers on the hay farm. They are fairly new only 145K on one and 180K on the other.
I have had the bowties and cummins powered trucks, they don't hold up. The GM vehicle kept blowing rear ends and transmissions. The Dodge diesel negated any savings with expensive filter changes and the interior was shot in 4 years. I will stick with Ford F-series trucks as they are get the job done with minimal downtime because of their dependability.
My experience as a farmer: You get a F150 or a 3/4 ton other brand and they are about equal in getting the job done - almost. I have two F150's that get the living crap beat out of them by the workers on the hay farm. They are fairly new only 145K on one and 180K on the other.
I have had the bowties and cummins powered trucks, they don't hold up. The GM vehicle kept blowing rear ends and transmissions. The Dodge diesel negated any savings with expensive filter changes and the interior was shot in 4 years. I will stick with Ford F-series trucks as they are get the job done with minimal downtime because of their dependability.
Well sorry to here you are going to a GM product. I used to would not even consider buying a Ford. My Father was always telling me different. Buy Ford buy Ford. But I wouldn't listen.
I finally broke down and bought my first one in 1993. It is a 91 f150 Lariat 2 wheel drive short bed. That truck is still running today. It has well over 200 thousand miles on it now. It is also driven everyday. I am not going to say I have ever had to work on this truck. But the repairs that have been done, have been very minimal. More less it just boiles down to general maintenance. We also have several other Ford products that have never given us any trouble.
Now I will admit this 2004 has been a headache for me as well. I have had more trouble out of it than any others that I have owned. But you have to take into consideration. This truck has been totally redesigned. Which in turn means there will be some problems. I chalk this up to the advancement of technology and further more you have to remember that engineers are not always right. Just because it looks good on paper doesn't always mean it will work. Sorry you are leaving but to each his own. You will later realize your mistake
I finally broke down and bought my first one in 1993. It is a 91 f150 Lariat 2 wheel drive short bed. That truck is still running today. It has well over 200 thousand miles on it now. It is also driven everyday. I am not going to say I have ever had to work on this truck. But the repairs that have been done, have been very minimal. More less it just boiles down to general maintenance. We also have several other Ford products that have never given us any trouble.
Now I will admit this 2004 has been a headache for me as well. I have had more trouble out of it than any others that I have owned. But you have to take into consideration. This truck has been totally redesigned. Which in turn means there will be some problems. I chalk this up to the advancement of technology and further more you have to remember that engineers are not always right. Just because it looks good on paper doesn't always mean it will work. Sorry you are leaving but to each his own. You will later realize your mistake
Go to chevy land chevy boy!
I ran a 86 F150 over 40.000 with a rear main seal leaking.
300 6 cyl.I sold the truck $750.00 and told the dude what was the matter.he filled it with heavy wieght oil and ran it for three months and then sold it to another guy who ran it for two years.
I saw the truck in a car lot three years later it was still running and the motor was the orginal.they had replaced the clutch only.
Try that with a chevy!
300 6 cyl.I sold the truck $750.00 and told the dude what was the matter.he filled it with heavy wieght oil and ran it for three months and then sold it to another guy who ran it for two years.
I saw the truck in a car lot three years later it was still running and the motor was the orginal.they had replaced the clutch only.
Try that with a chevy!
To newfie ford
You got to be a "townie", Or mabye from conseption bay someplace, My 2 fords spent most of their lifes on the rock and used the way a 4wd is supposed to be used. I always do regular maintance on my machines, But this is not enough for these trucks. Hey listen Fellow newf, when your tie rod ends fall out or transmission gives out I got a buddy back home who loves to tow those fords.
Truck Brands
I believe the quality of your truck is basically the luck of the draw. My first truck was a 91 Chevy Silverado Stepside and it was a good truck that I had for 8 yrs. Next up was a Dodge Ram Quad Cab and the motor started tapping at bout 50k and it began to rattle. I sold it and got the 03 Screw that I have now. If it holds up then it will be the best out of the three. Dont know if I will keep it as long as I kept the Chevy but so far I am impressed with the truck. It is the most powerful and fastest of the three. I take care of my vehicles and why the Dodge started tapping on me I dont know. I dont think it was due to neglect on my part. I am 2 out of 3 so that aint bad.
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2001 F150 XLT Off Road 4x4 5.4 Liter 12,000 miles (runs better then a 2005)
1998 F150 XLT 4.6Liter 298,000 miles
1988 Ranger 1.8Liter 243,000 miles ( last time we changed something on this vehicle were the spark plugs)
i have nothing else to say, except would you like photos?
i dont think chevy/dodge will give you this result.
neso
1998 F150 XLT 4.6Liter 298,000 miles
1988 Ranger 1.8Liter 243,000 miles ( last time we changed something on this vehicle were the spark plugs)
i have nothing else to say, except would you like photos?
i dont think chevy/dodge will give you this result.
neso
One common theme I've noticed among most Ford cheerleaders is longevity. Suffice it to say that most everyone can agree that ford trucks last years longer than similarly equipped Chevies.
But what about the guy who buys a new truck every 2-3 years? He doesn't give a rat's tail about how many hundreds of thousands of miles the truck will run. He wants to run a new truck with minimal hassles and the first time it needs work, he trades it on a new one.
Now combine that fact with the honest realization that the new body style Fords are having some weaning issues. Vibrations, leaks, squeaks and lack of power all come into play. If I were going to buy a new truck tomorrow and knew that I would be trading it before it hit 40K miles, you're damn straight I'd be looking hard at the Chevies. Too many negatives with the new Ford body style (including being too damn tall to see other cars behind you without relying on the electronic backup sensors). The mirrors are ugly and look like a complete afterthought. There is no good reason to have a 40 lb steel driveshaft that's almost 8 feet long.
But in reality, I'm one of those guys that buys the 2-3 year old trade-in and drives it for 150K miles. I'll let someone else work out the bugs and warranty issues, then I'll pick up the 3 year old truck for half price. And no, I would not even think about buying a Chevy truck with 40K miles on it. I figure I'll be driving my 02 Lariat until about 2013 and by then Ford should have the bugs worked out of the new body style.
But what about the guy who buys a new truck every 2-3 years? He doesn't give a rat's tail about how many hundreds of thousands of miles the truck will run. He wants to run a new truck with minimal hassles and the first time it needs work, he trades it on a new one.
Now combine that fact with the honest realization that the new body style Fords are having some weaning issues. Vibrations, leaks, squeaks and lack of power all come into play. If I were going to buy a new truck tomorrow and knew that I would be trading it before it hit 40K miles, you're damn straight I'd be looking hard at the Chevies. Too many negatives with the new Ford body style (including being too damn tall to see other cars behind you without relying on the electronic backup sensors). The mirrors are ugly and look like a complete afterthought. There is no good reason to have a 40 lb steel driveshaft that's almost 8 feet long.
But in reality, I'm one of those guys that buys the 2-3 year old trade-in and drives it for 150K miles. I'll let someone else work out the bugs and warranty issues, then I'll pick up the 3 year old truck for half price. And no, I would not even think about buying a Chevy truck with 40K miles on it. I figure I'll be driving my 02 Lariat until about 2013 and by then Ford should have the bugs worked out of the new body style.
snappylips
Originally posted by snappylips
Hmmm, I'm trying to count how many Chevy/GMC tow trucks I've seen lately. None--except for the broken junk on the hook of an F-550! They probably overheated towing a Vega.
GMC=Gotta Mechanic Comin'.
BTW, I own a 44 Magnum. Had it for years too. Never failed me either. Never use it, but it's never failed me. Anybody care? Didn't think so.
Just out of curiosity, what does BSP stand for? In my line of work it's British Standard Pipe, but I bet this forum could come up with some very colorful alternatives. LOLLLL
SL
Hmmm, I'm trying to count how many Chevy/GMC tow trucks I've seen lately. None--except for the broken junk on the hook of an F-550! They probably overheated towing a Vega.
GMC=Gotta Mechanic Comin'.
BTW, I own a 44 Magnum. Had it for years too. Never failed me either. Never use it, but it's never failed me. Anybody care? Didn't think so.
Just out of curiosity, what does BSP stand for? In my line of work it's British Standard Pipe, but I bet this forum could come up with some very colorful alternatives. LOLLLL
SL
well here is how i look at it. Studebaker made their v8s to go through 4 major rebuilds and they sold 40 under main bearings from the factory. 18 head bolts+strong castings, blocks that i could have been bored more then .06, and i belive forged pistions and rods. So basically you have a car that can last forever...... You wonder why they went out of buisness? Same thing with Amc too. They made quality engines.... ask a mechanic about the 4.0 6 cylinder in a jeep. Not many sold or worked on....thats cause they last! Thats an AMC engine. Now days they try to cut too many corners.... look at the spark plug issues. Engineers are thinking if we eliminate this machining process we can say X amount of dollars, or one less head bolt will save us this much and the probability of failure is low enough to be within acceptable limits. Some engines they said well lets just throw in forged rods and crank just in case basically. Do you think they would do that now? If you ask me all the auto makers that are around now are here because they put out the best line of BS to get you in to buy a vehicle and made them as cheap as possible. yeah some are better then others....but show me a car that goes a million miles and ill show you the next car maker to go out of buisness.
Re: snappylips
Originally posted by BSP
With a name like snappylips, there cant be much hair on your chin.:o
With a name like snappylips, there cant be much hair on your chin.:o
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BSP
maybe you should use the 44 magnum!!!
Be happy to. Stop by some time.
SL
Last edited by snappylips; Feb 14, 2005 at 10:36 PM.


