Dear msparks The Harley Dealer HERE says NO NO NO to Amsoil. I know guys that own Harleys, I own a Suzuki, that tell me this< I use Amsoil in my Suzuki, and thats how the conversation came up, The Harley Guys told me the problem using Amsoil in Harleys. I don't know , im just repeating what I was told. My bike uses a wet clutch, after using Amsoil Motorcycle Engine Oil 10W-40 It increased my top speed by 10mph, no clutch slippage, higher top speed. Thats what sold me to switch using Amsoil 0W-30 in my FORD F-150. Mr Msparks may I make a suggestion? Some of ur posts are kinda mean. I suggest you should try to be more friendly. I understand its tough reading some of the stupid stuff in here when guys like you and me know everything, but sometimes u have to bite ur lip, and be nice once in a while. Thank You, Have a nice day.

 

hey, mOTO, you makea da good post there.
What peopls don't ttinka da bout is many da bikes share da engine oil with da gear and da cluch operations.
This makes de oil nedd to have special formulation too meat all needs.
If da oil is made toda needed specs, itmake little differnce who mak da oil.--- Right?
You to have a nice day.

 

Harley dealer, take your knive to the harely dealer and cut him, I bet it comes out black and orange not red.

I just stopped by a big dog dealer who has been riding harley V-twins for 30 years. Some of his motorcycles cost $29,000. He said he would not use harley oil even if he was stranded out in the Desert with no one around for 100 miles and a harley rider offered to top up his oil with the H-D stuff. He said the new H-D syn is Crap, the dino H-D stuff is crap.

BTW he doesn't even sell Amsoil (yet.)

On being nice.

I'm only nice on Sunday's becuase it's a holy day. The rest of the day's I'm meaner than a rattlesnake at a roundup.

Really though, I try to be nice, I guess I just come across rough like 60 grit.

 

Dear Mr Bluegrass Amsoil made a believer outta me, after I started using it in my motorcycle. I thought I was a know it all, and I laughed when told Amsoil would increase my top speed, but it did. I was soooo impressed I went out and got Amsoil for my truck, I did notice after using the Amsoil 0W30 that my temp. guage don't come up to its normal position, engine runs cooler, and Im getting better gas milage. The Jap bikes like mine uses the same oil as crankcase, clutch, and transmisson gear oil. The Harleys have a dry clutch. What happens is there is less impurities in Amsoil, so ur wet clutch won't slip on these impurities. I mean its almost normal to have some wet clutch slippage, but when u switch to Amsoil, you have none. No clutch slippage makes the higher top speed. I tell other guys that own Jap bikes they are crazy if they refuse to use Amsoil, they have no idea what they are missing. The Motorcycle Dealer only cuts down Amsoil only because he wants to sell his cheap oil at a high price.

 

The thermostat regulates the temperature; if it not coming up to the normal operating temp your thermostat is bad.

 

I hear ya.
Oil/fluid spec for any engine has to meet a number of parameters such as wide temp ranges, friction performance, heat breakdown etc.
If one takes a bit of a scientific look at wet clutch operation; it depends on the clutch material and the hard surface.
There are 3 phases to consider.
1 Is the pre-lockup where the lube acts as a fluid coupling much the same as a converter in an auto transmission. At this phase, heat from slip is generated at the surfaces. This means the fluid has to be heat resistant yet soak into the lining and hang onto the hard surface with out interfering with the intended action.
2 This phase is the total lock up and has to be good enough to handle the torque of the engine with out slip or interference from the lube.
3 This phase is the reverse of phase 1 with some other differences.
As you can see, the lube used has to have certain qualities for the expected life before rebuild is needed.
If anyone changes from the recommended lube/fluids and has success, it is not because of any science but one of luck or that a specific performace action was intended at the possible expense of shorter life, or form hearsay. We can all, often change something to get performance better suited to our liking but it is not a basis of insisting that others should do the same. It only keeps generating unfounded disagreement that can never have a conclusion.
All anyone has to remember about lube/fluids is the application it is used for and how well it meets all the needs of that unit. This is why there are specs on the label that are SAE standards for performance with no guessing about it.
Tkae care

 

Dear Bluegrass HUH? What did you say? So ur saying that by using Amsoil in a wet clutch appication, when its giving me a higher top speed, because now there is NO clutch slippage, that that oil is soaking thru my clutch, and making it weaker, and inturn causing more wear on the fiber clutch discs. I kinda figured a slipping clutch would cause more wear. By switching brands of motor oil in a wet clutch appication, then you get a higher top speed, no, or less clutch slippage is the only way to explain why ur getting that higher top speed.

 

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Does anyone here use Royal Purple? I have a case setting in the garage. My truck is getting rady to turn 3,000 miles and I'm going to use it with a Motorcraft filter. By the way I'm going to use 5W-20.

 

I have never used amsoil so I won't knock it. I would probably try it if it were available. When you go to their web site and try to locate a dealer, they try to recruit you. Mobil 1 is redily available so that is what goes in my truck. Bourget motorcycles have Mobil1 oil caps. They use the stuff in every kind of race car imaginable. If it can withstand 600 mile Nascar races in the middle of summer, or do it's job in 124 ci. air cooled motorcycle engines, then surely it will lube my engine for 5000 miles. (My choice of oil change interval. Just my two cents worth...Kevin

 

where can i get this besides the stealer?? advance auto has the 5w-30 but is semi-synthetic...

 

I buy my oil from Wal-Mart but here’s a list of other retail stores it’s available at.

Selected Motorcraft® products are also available at these retail stores.

 

When was the last time you saw a NASCAR engine with over 100k miles?

Every applcation is different and places different requirements on oil. I am not going to say that Mobil1 is bad, because it isn't. I just wanted to make a point that your personal vehicle isn't anything like a NARCAR engine. If it was, it would probably have been rebuilt or replaced at least 5 time by now.

 

Mobil 1 is only $2.50 a quart at Pep Boys.

Buy a calendar for $1, there is a coupon in it for "Buy 3 Quarts of M1, get 3 free"

I will soon have enough Mobil 1 in my garage, I may never need to buy oil again...

 

More on this.

This weekend I just did the largest V-twin show in the country. There were probably over 10,000 in attendence. Anyhow, there were so many custom bike builders there it wasn't funny.

I talked to more than one shop owner that will only sell Amsoil exclusively at their shop. If the customer wants to use something else they have to bring it.

There were literally hunderds of shop owners that came buy and told us they "already" sell Amsoil. Though I did have a good weekend I registered over 20 shops that will be selling the products, the other guy with me registered around 100(it was his booth)

Anyhow, I'm just saying there are Hardley dealers out there that bleed Orange and Black, you want to do something different they will be against it.

Lastly on the recruiting thing, I don't know which Amsoil site you went to, but the Corp Site does not recruit. you may have been at an independant dealer site.

go to www.Amsoil.Com this is the only corp site, all others are dealers(that try to recruit you)