Either you raced a bad driver your you're simply full of ****, becasue a 5.3 will out-run your 5.4 stock.

Also, what's all this bull**** talk about torque with the 5.4. The 5.3 has 325 ft lbs, and the 5.4 is at 350. The GM 6.0 V8 beats the 5.4 at 360.

5.3 has more HP and almost as much torque, so don't act like there's a big difference when comparing towing between the engines.

You, get a life, quit your anti-Chevy bull****, face some facts, and Chevy makes just as real trucks as ford.

Damn people, I'm a Ford guy myself and I have to explain things like this. Some people on this site are way too biased.

 

Well, the 5.4L has MORE, and at a MUCH lower rpm. Thus why its better for towing. 2500rpm vs what, 4500rpms? The new 5.4L will have 365ft lbs also, at the same low rpm. Stock for stock, a 5.3L should beat a 5.4L, because of more HP and its a light truck. Ive raced a buddies Z71, and he can't touch me till 2nd gear, and then he puts a car length on me till about 70. I dont care for Chevys to be honest. They focus more on HP than torque in a truck motor (ahem, ls1, sorry, car motor). I have a silverado for work use (03) and the thing just feels fragile. Id I step on the bumper (im 185lbs) the thing damn near bottoms out. Interior? Looks very cheap, IMO. Rides good, but it feels VERY VERY cheap and light duty. Step on the bumper of my F150, and it doesn't budge more than a centimeter.

 

I'm not going to side with either truck on here because I don't have any experience pulling with the 5.4 or with a Chevy, but I would like to throw in some observations that I have seen. People around here pull alot of trailers since there are many lawn services and other kind of services around. And people pull these trailers with all different types of vehicles. I have noticed that when I see a Chevy pulling a trailer, the bumper looks like it is dragging the ground. I have seen this on Fords and Dodges as well, but it looks more pronounced on the Chevy. I saw this yesterday. It was a Chevy Z71 regular cab and what looked like a 4X4 and was lifted. It was pulling I think a 9X12 trailer. The rear end was sitting about a foot lower than the front of the truck and it looked like the front wheels would come off the ground at any second. He was pulling it pretty good, but he also had a hard time taking off. Like I said, I have also seen Fords and Dodges like this as well, but it just seems the chevy is more pronounced.

Everyone wants to know what their truck will do in a quarter mile or which is faster, but that statement pretty much sums it up. A 4X4 is not meant to be raced, they are meant to do stuff.

 

I drive a Ford and will continue to buy Ford trucks, but the big three are all offering some very functional trucks. It could be debated all day long. The Ford owner is going to say that Ford is the best and the Chevy owner is going to say the Chevy is the best. They all have their strong points. GM has done a good job of creating respectible power out of thier push rod engines. Ford has done a good job of creating a broad torque curve with the modular Triton engines. Dodge has also done a respectible job of getting good power with the Hemi and the 4.7. The all bring something good to the table. It would be pretty boring if all the numbers were the same, wouldn't it?

The only way to know for sure which truck were the "fastest" would be to repetedly race them and come up with averages.

Stock for stock I guess there are several trucks that are "faster" than me. Fortunately I'm not stock. I don't worry too much about the 5.3's or the 4.8's, or the 6.0's or the 8.1's, or the Hemi's (though they should be faster than me, I'll have to see) or the 4.7's, not even the 5.4's........ if they are stock. I may be a few thousand poorer but my 4.6 is pumping out some respectible power too! It's the guys who put a little something-something under the hood that you have to worry about, no matter how much horsepower the manufacturer is claiming.

 

Well i was first hand with this deal.....With my uncles 03 chevy equially equiped as my 00 ford. Both are half ton trucks with supercabs, off road, 4X4, and we both have the big motors..the 5.3 and the 5.4 for me. We needed to get some lumber for a job so we used his truck to get it. He was pulling a 16 foot car trailer with a pretty good size load on it but nothing to brag about. To me his truck had absolutely NO *****. it took him forever to get up to 60 mph..like half mile or so. I dont know if he was ***** footin it or what. Every hill he couldnt pull and he would pull down way under the speed limit. When ever it did actually downshift it never made you feel like you were getting throw into the back of your seat. But when i pull my 16 foot cargo trailer full of tools and alll other ****, i have no problem doing it. Taking off from a corner and it doesnt take long and im up to speed. When i need to pass someone with it i get right around them and it makes you "feel" like your getting thrown backward into your seat. Now to me thats power. I know his trailer weighed more.. or pretty close. But weight pulls a hell of alot easier than wind resistance. That cargo trailer stands taller than **** and its like a brick wall. And the funny thing is .... when we got to our designation..we pullled the same distance and i had more gas left. and i know i drove harder too! now you tell me that chevys have more pulling ability than ford??? I didnt think so. Where i live many guys have the 3/4 ton trucks for pulling 5th wheels around and all that ****. You hardly ever EVER see anyone with a chevy. They are all fords and a few dodges!!! Now i think that tells me that fords are better for pulling. yeah ill agree chevys ride like a car...cuz they do. but that ISNT what makes a TRUCK! So dont tell me or anybody that runs ford that they arent better for pulling!

 

I know the answer. Sure chevys run good but.....if its moving a load with less work its Ford. Look at the figures the 5.3 is at about 4,0000 rpm at max torque the Ford 5.4 is at 2500. So....how does that figure. Its is basic rpm. If you had 5,000 lbs sitting at a dead stop with each truck which one would have to work harder moving a given load????? duh?

I dont care which one is fast.Unloaded the chev may be faster but under load the Ford will work better. Make sense??????? I think so.

Mlaugh

 

They all suck, but Ford just sucks less.

Actually I have a friend who is a retired city worker. They had a choice between Ford and Chevy trucks. Since they did a lot of hauling, most would run to the Ford trucks because of Ford's superior towing ability. Chevy just couldn't stack up.

 

Since when can you get a 6.0L in a LD truck?

Peak numbers really mean nothing. Area under the torque curve is what counts and the 5.4L has more of it, especially under 2500rpm where most people drive trucks.

Maybe learn a little first. GM does make some fine trucks, but the 5.4L is a better truck motor.

You cannot get 4.10 gears in a LD Ford so whatever comparison you thought you had was invalid. Heck, even 3.73 gears are quite rare.

 

I have to say that whoever just posted that last one hit the head of the nail pretty damn good!! Way to go buddy! Yeah i thought that guy was pretty full of **** when he was comparing the 5.4 liter to the 6.0 cuz the 6.0 is for 3/4 ton trucks so duh??? its going to be bigger. Yeah but its a typical chevy guy....Just cause the salesmen that sold them their chevy says its better must mean that they are so much better..HAHA not!! Get a ford bud then you can talk big! Go FORD!!!

 

I just had a flashback to the first holiday season after we took delivery of our 99 F-150. A family member (on Wife's side) had bashed us for buying a Ford truck. At this holiday gathering his head hung pretty low; he had taken delivery of his new Chevy 1500 the previous month and out of his 1st. 30 days of ownership the dealer had his new truck for 17 days.

Our truck didn't go back to dealer for anything wrong until almost a year later. It had a leaky rear sliding window, which was replaced at zero cost and truck was done in 5 hours.

Several people that I know have Chevy trucks as "daily drivers". For their business or vocation, they make their living using Ford trucks.

 

Hey Bo747, your the one that came off as an Chevy owner!

"I'd like to see the figures in which your 5.4s could out-tow the 5.3.
Actually the 5.3 can out-tow the 5.4. NOW THATS A LINE OF CRAP. The 5.4 develops its HP & TQ @ a much lower RPM for just that TOWING

The highest trailer weight on the 5.4 is 8800lbs, and with the 5.3, it's 9100lbs.

Both are the highest ratings for each engine, and on both the Ford and Chevy: 4.10 axles, reg cab.

Sources:

Chevy and Ford websites

In a race, stock for stock, the 5.3 and even 4.8 will blow the doors off the 5.4. I've witnessed this several times. As I said, 5.3's have never been a problem & I didn't ever say mine was completely stock & as far as the 4.8..give me a break..whatever your on I want some.

My friends F150 Supercab 4x4 w/5.4 towed his 8000lb trailor without a problem, as did my brothers '02 Silverado Z71 with the 5.3. The Chevy pulled the trailer just as well, as cool, and as long as the Ford did." OK, wheres your so called "Ford you own" fall in here.
With 4 posts I would say your just another unhappy chevy owner that wants to start trouble with Ford Truck owners.

 

you better check that statement.

just my opion but part of the reason the 5.4 makes such low end power is the heads dont breath well, makes low end power but hurts mpg and freeway driving and passing situations.
the new 3 vavle makes peak in the 3500 to 3900 range (cant remember the number) ford is adapting the 5.4 to compete and beat he 5.3 chev and the 5.7 hemi.
make of that what you will, but chevy and dodge are not adapting there engines to produce more lowend and you are kidding yourself if you think they couldnt do it if they wanted to.
btw my f150 alway pulls the chevy of the line only to be passed up at around 45 or 50 (this was before the vortech s/c

 

Well, just like there is more to the story than just raw peak torque, there is also more to the story than peak torque rpm. Just because the 5.3L makes its peak torque at 4000 rpm, that doesn't necassarily mean it has no torque below that. The 5.3L actually has a rather nice and flat torque curve. There's really not too much difference in the torque of the 5.3L between 2500 and 4000 rpms. However, I am a Ford guy and I would be remiss to not point out that the new 5.4L engine still makes 40 more lb/ft of torque than the 5.3L. I have yet to see the tq curve on the 5.4L, but considering the 2V had a full 350 lb/ft of tq @ 2500, I'm sure the curve is pretty flat. There's nothing wrong with having abundant torque @ 1500-2500 rpms, and then having a tq curve that keeps going up through 4000 rpms. That's a recipe for great towing power as well as decent acceleration. Any ways, Ford

 

I guess I am at a loss...............Brotherdave really lost me on his last post. All I know is that Ford has allways been known for its towing and low end torque. By the way.... it's alot of personal preferance.....Chevy is a good truck but the Ford is more likely to out last, out pull, out work and out hold together than the GM name plate. That is why Ford has been the number one selling Truck for years and years.

 

what part did i lose you, let me know and i will try to explain.