Geez it must be nice having all those specialty tools and then being able to brag about it like that. LOL Nah i'm just messing with you Steve. I myself have my fair share of tools and such but have never really had the need for a 90* head drill however those are nice for tight spots. Hell I have nevr really needed t test light until now so of course I went out and purchased one of those which is what I do a lot of the time when I am working on stuff. If I don't have the proper tool it's off to Sears to get it. It sure is nice though having the tools you need.

Thanks again for all the help,
Richard D.

 

They are selling gripwrenches at Checker, Kragen, Schucks for $9.99. AND you even get 2 of them! One for the toolbox and one for the kitchen.

Click here for listing link

 

I already have those got them from Sears. That's a great price though for them I think I paid around 12.00 after all my discounts I had for Crafstman club card days.

Richard D.

 

OK I have another question I was going over the instructions about the wiring and the 10 gauge wire that is used to go from the battery Pos. and Neg. to the VSC terminal 1 and 4 is the same wire I used to wire the fan wires together, I did not use the small little 16 gauge wire because I did not realize that small wire was for wireing the fans I fugured it was for using as signal wire. I figured I needed to use the thick 10 gauge wire since it is what supplies the power to the fans . So will this be OK or should I cut everything apart and use the little 16 gauge wire? I would not think this would hurt anything however since the wire diameter is bigger could it send to much current thru the fan wires themsleves and fry them?

Richard D.

 

I've posted this picture before. You can see I used the 10 awg to wire up to the fans from the controller. I used the supplied connector plugs and I used the 10 awg to where the two fans wiring comes together.

 

Man I am such a knuckle head. I'm on brain overload that is my problem , I just went back and read the instructions again and it says right in them to use the 10 gauge wire No wonder I used it the dang directions told me to. That just goes to show that I am on total overload lately with this and a few other things I am doing on the truck at the same time to much going on at one time. SHEEEEESH!! Hapnyzap I noticed you mounted your VSC in the same place I mounted mine with the exception of mine being truned the other way. ie... instead of up and down like yours mine is goes from left to right. By the way the crimp on connectors that come with the fan SUCK my wires keep pulling out of them so I went and got some Marine connectors and some Adhesive lined heat shrink tubing which is AWESOME stuff and am using it.

Richard D.

 

The part of the instructions that told you to put the 12 GA from the fan to the male bullet connector on each one, I passed on.

I put the 2 sets of 12 ga to the terminal connector straight away, rather then adding the Y bullet connector to the 10 ga then on to the VSC. If you used 10 ga all the way to the fan, it is not a problem, just need a bigger hole in the fan frame to pass the wires through.

If the crimps are pulling out, check what you are using for a crimping tool. The Automotive type crip tool is junk. This has a pattern of 2 curves on each side, nothing but a junk crimper ( this is usually what is on the stripper crimper combo pliars ).

Use a decent type crimper and they will never fall apart again, I use Thomas & Betts Sta-Kon lug crimpers WT-111 M
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When you crimp put the point into the side that is folded around to stop the crimp from colasping.
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I never had a problem with the cheapest of crimps comming apart with these, Using the Automotive style crimpers, even a decient T&B Sta-Kon terminal end comes loose.

Just what I was tought way back when.

 

Steve after you said you didn't use those bullet connectors and the 2-1 jumper (which by the way I wasn't to fond of when I origanally did it) I decided to go back and unwrap all the electrical tape and redo it with butt connectors that have heat shrink tubing built into them the way you did as I feel that is much more secure than those 2-1 thingys which by the way came apart on me when i was removing the tape and two of the wires also came out of the crimps. I actaully have seprat cutters strippers and crimpers not an all in one tool and have never had a problem with any of my marine fittings coming loose I don't have a clue why these are all coming undone so I just went and got some Marine connectors and Adhesive lined heat shricnk tubing and redid them all now they will not come apart. Everything is wired up except for the Temp. probe and the fan so all I have to do this weekend is install the fan and hook up the remaining wire.

Richard D.

 

OK I have a problem and I need help I have installed the FAL and when I insert the Temp Probe it barely come out the nother side of the radiator so how in the heck do I put the rubber plug on the end of it to prevent it from backing out? Whoever wrote about the bottom bolts they were not kidding what a pain in the A** to put the nuts onto the bolts Fle-a-lit should have put and access hole in the shroud to put the nut thru I thought about drilling a big hole thru it myself but didnt think it was a good idea for the flow might be upset . Probably not but why take the chance. Anyway can someon please help me before SATurday morning.

Richard D.

 

The rubber tip for the tempature probe is for those with a single row radiator. If you have the towing package radiator dont worry about it - I didn't.

 

OK Cool ,
I do have the Tow package so just stick it in and it will be fine? Man I was like the the ******* how in the heck am I supose to put this rubber cap on when the tip barely protrudes out the other side of the radiator. I will post some pics in my gallery of all I did this weekend after I get my film developed.

Thanks,
Richard D.

 

Alrighty then I have the fans installed but would like a few more questions answered. First of all on the VSC the dila where you adjust the temp come on point for the fans how far has everyone turned the dial until the fans come on? Here is what i did i set it all the way to the lowest temp point as my starting point and waited for the thermostat to open up Which like someone else said TAKES FOREVER ! So thermostat opens and the radiator starts to get hot fans still havent turned on Truck is at it's normal operating temp so now I am starting to get worried. So i continue to wait when the fans finally kick on now this is with the dial at the lowest setting so is this suufieceint and does anyone know what the minumum temp setting for the fans to turn on is? It must be around 200* or so I figure. So this is where i left it I sure do wish I had somthing to check the temp. Secondly I want to put in a switch to turn off the fans when I want to like the instructions say however my question is do I need to buy the Flex-a-Lite switch or will any Lighted switch work and then I am a bit confused as to how to wire it so that when I turn it on (ie turn the fans off) the swicth lights up but the fans turn off any and all help is greatly appreciated. By the way these fans kick out some air.

Richard D.

 

All I can tell you is my controller is set to come on around 200*. The set screw is within the turning range i.e. not turned all the way to a stopping point. You might want to call flex-a-lite and tell them about it and maybe get another controller.

As for a switch. You can do either a positive or negative actuated switch depending on what terminal on the controller you use. As for a lighted switch I suppose it depends on the switch you buy.

 

I think you miss understood me . My dial is within the Rotation of the switch it just happens to be just a tad bit past the lowest setting which is why I wanted to know if anyone knew what the minimum temp range for the VSC is. As for the switch the directions say(To 'Over-ride' the VSC and turn the fans off regardless of temp or A/C opwration use a manul switch to send a ground/negative signal to terminal # 5

Richard D.

However i will call FAL on monday just to check what they have to say about the VSC

 

Well I called FLEX-A-LITE this morning and asked them about my VSC setting and also to let them know that the connectors that everything connects to which is surounded by the rubbery stuff is pulling out of the hard casing on my VSC. Here is what they told me. It appears as though I got an older model of the VSC so I faxed them my reciept and they will be sending me a new VSC they also told me that as for setting the temp on it that if my thermostat opens at 195* I should set the fans to come on at around 192* so they can get a head start on cooling things down. This confused me a bit since if I set the fans to come on at 192* how will my thermostat open at 195*, he said the thermostat will open at 195 and begin to push coolant into the radiator where the temp probe is located once the coolant passing over the temp probe reaches 192* the fans will kick on and that will keep your truck cooled at a fairly constant temp of 195*. which will be great for the tranny cooler and all the other coolers that run thru the raidator. Sounds logical to me so that is what i will try. Thanks agin to all who helped me with this enevour I took many pics and turned them in to be developed yesterday so I should have pics posted in my gallery by the end of today hopefully of all I have done over the paast month or so.

Richard D.

While your here check out my gallery:
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