So you shift it manually.

 

"You shift it manually..."

How many people even know what 2 or 1 is....

It shouldn't be on there... It should just be PRND... screw 2 and 1...

 

I pull a tractor with mine all the time , a horse trailer , 6 big heavy round bales of hay and my milleage is still around 16-18 and pulls it better than any new v-8 I have ever owned . My truck is an 01 ext cab with 4.2 v6 with well over 200,000 miles and only truck I have had to pull better was my Powerstroke I had ....

 

You should be able to pull that no problem. I have pulled a large trailer loaded down on a three hour drive and i have a 5-speed with 3.08 gears and i had no problem, and i really didn't use that much gas. My old truck had the 5.4 and it would have really gulped the fuel pulling that same load...

 

i have at least doubled the manufactor recommended towing capacity with my 02 f150 v6 x cab 5 speed i tow a 20 foot lowboy with a backhoe on it on a regular basis and have no trouble i lose a little fuel economy i get around 17 with a trailer these trucks are bullet proof

 

The truck may be bulletproof, but the 5 speed manual is far from that. Ever wonder why the towing capacity with an automatic is so much higher?

 

Ever wonder where they get their specs from?

I've yet to see a hp and torque rating on the M5OD.

Here's the funny part:

2007 Ford F150 XL Regular Cab 4x2 8' box - 4747 lbs curb - Towing - 3600 lbs (3.55)

2002 Ford F150 XL Regular Cab 4x2 8' box - 4064 lbs curb - Towing - 3500 lbs (3.55)

My question: Why did Ford increase the curb weight by 683 lbs AND was allowed to increase the towing capacity by 100 lbs?

Which leads me to believe Ford's numbers are merely to either deter people from buying the standard F150 or else trying to protect their wallets.

I've towed double what the capacity is along with doing some crazy stuff in the making. Never had a problem.

The only logical thing I can think of, is the fact that is not a heavy duty truck, they think that inexperienced drivers will be driving it thus covering their behinds. But the M5OD's long history of interesting issues makes me wonder.

However, the major focal point I'm trying to reach at here is the fact that no one has hard facts on the durability standards of this transmission. Reading people's opinions on forums and blogs can tell you something, but that doesn't cover the whole enchilada. Besides, the ones that do break are from total nut heads that don't know how to drive or try pulling off stunts -- neither of which I do, so it is not related to my truck persay.

It really makes me wonder... now I'm not trying to make a scene or anything... but there are no real numbers on the M5OD.

 

the M5OD has less driveline loss compared to the 4R70W and E4ODs

 

You can pull two of them with that V6 bro!

 

i really think that ford says the towing cap. is more on the automatics to get people to buy them. i tried to find a new f150 with a manual trans. the dealership said they didnt make them on my other 01 f150 ive gone through 3 auto trans. and i have about 155000 miles on it. on my 02 f150 i have over 285000 miles and have only put a clutch in the truck thats bullet proof built ford tough.

 

food for thought... why does everyone think that they cant pull because they have a V6. the 4.2 has more power than most of the V8s did in the 70s and 80s and close to the ones in the 90s. my 78 351 windsor f150 was 165hp, my 86 chevy C-10 305ci was 163hp. and that is what they pulled their heavy crap in back then. so here. i made a list...of more recent fords to make you V6 owners more comfortable with pulling.
4.2L
1997-2005 =202hp@4800, 252Lb-Ft@3400
2006-2008 =202hp@4350, 260Lb-Ft@3750

4.6L 2V
1997-2000 =220hp@4750, 265Lb-Ft@4000
2001-2007 =231hp@4750, 293Lb-Ft@3500
2007-2009 =248hp@4750, 294Lb-Ft@4000

4.6L 3V
2009 =292hp@5700, 320Lb-Ft@4000

4.9L
1988-1993 =145hp@3400, 265Lb-Ft@2000
1994-1996 =150hp@3400, 260Lb-Ft@2000

5.0L-
1987-1991 =186hp 270Lb-Ft
1992-1993 =185hp, 270Lb-Ft
1994-1996 =manual=205hp, 275Lb-Ft, auto 195hp, 275Lb-Ft

5.4L 2V
1997-1998 =235hp@4250, 335Lb-Ft@3000
1999-2003 =260hp@4500, 350Lb-Ft@2500

5.4L 3V
2004-2008 =300hp@5000, 365Lb-Ft@3750
2009 =310hp@5000, 365Lb-Ft@3500

5.8L
1988-1992 =210hp, 315Lb-Ft
1993 =200hp, 310Lb-Ft
1994-1996 =210hp@325Lb-Ft

 

yup. 2008 was the last year for a manual tranny. and you could only get a V6 with it. i think 04 was the first year all the V8s had an auto. 04 new style was V8 auto, no V6 offered, no manual offered. but the 04 heritage(leftover 03 parts) had every option, V6 or V8, auto or manual, but still only V6 with the manual.

 

When I was at the service center today, they told me that I've got a rather unique truck because lots of people never realized they made a standard shift F150... lol

That's why I will never get rid of it... v6 or not...

 

I do miss my 97' 5spd F-150 at times. It was fun to actually "drive" the truck. FWIW, I did tow a decent size boat with a tandem axle trailer and she pulled just fine.

 

No, the M5OD has a weak input shaft. It's a warranty issue with that and the clutch. If you don't know how to use a clutch properly, you can send it up in smoke trying to tow a heavy load.