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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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so a guy on here just told me that it is better to run your oil a little low. still in the safe zone but not at the max.. i told him that i keep mine at the max all the time. he told me it is better to run it a little low. but still in the safe zone.

is this true?

i always figured keep it full becuse that is the more oil that can be lubricating.

was i wrong?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I don't think it's that critical, but this is how I do it.

An oil and filter change with 6 quarts puts the oil about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way up the safe zone. When it drops below the "add" mark (this takes about 4k miles), I put a quart in. I don't care how high that puts it, and it's time for an oil change before it drops to the "add" line again.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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I don't think it's that critical, but this is how I do it.

An oil and filter change with 6 quarts puts the oil about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way up the safe zone. When it drops below the "add" mark (this takes about 4k miles), I put a quart in. I don't care how high that puts it, and it's time for an oil change before it drops to the "add" line again.
this is how i do it. and was brought up doing it this way.

change oil and filter every 3,000 no matter what. check it every week and keep it at the top of the safe zone. what kind of filter do you use? i use MC...

one question tho. why does yours hold 6 quarts and not be full... when mine will hold 5 and be about 1/3 to 1/2 the way up the safe zone... i put 5 and 1/4 quarts in and it is plum full. why does your hold more? what year is yours?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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No , I ficken lied to you because that's all I do on this site. That's how I get my jollies.

BTW- Some guy = user name , jbrew


Your stated you keep your oil @ MAX . That is NOT good for these engines to keep at max .. Period. You maintain 6 quarts - Not 6.2 , .4 , .6 or whatever .. Not good for the internals as I explained in one of your other threads - Over filling can cause "foaming" of the oil. It's harder on the head gaskets. It's better all around to run a little low than it is on the high side. I can see I'm wasting my time with you.

Here's another part of your quote, I guess I might as well answer here now -

Originally Posted by 4.2L_Guy
but the 6 quart level would be over full on my pickup... mine holds 5 and a 1/4 guarts. and it is full...

so your telling me i should leave it a little low? i mean still in the safe zone... but not at the top of the safe zone?

my pickup does smoke all the time.
They all hold 6.




Even the 4.2 - We had one as well, so I know where 6 quarts puts it on the stick -



I know what I'm talking about -

I've gotten over a quart million miles on these motors - this one here is a V8 engine oil filter, but same principle. - Don't overfill them. Once in awhile if your on the high side won't hurt, but don't do it constantly.



Done - Good Luck.
 

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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No , I ficken lied to you because that's all I do on this site. That's how I get my jollies.

BTW- Some guy = user name , jbrew


Your stated you keep your oil @ MAX . That is NOT good for these engines to keep at max .. Period. You maintain 6 quarts - Not 6.2 , .4 , .6 or whatever .. Not good for the internals as I explained in one of your other threads - Over filling can cause "foaming" of the oil. It's harder on the head gaskets. It's better all around to run a little low than it is on the high side. I can see I'm wasting my time with you.

Here's another part of your quote, I guess I might as well answer here now -



They all hold 6.




Even the 4.2 - We had one as well, so I know where 6 quarts puts it on the stick -



I know what I'm talking about -

I've gotten over a quart million miles on these motors - this one here is a V8 engine oil filter, but same principle. - Don't overfill them. Once in awhile if your on the high side won't hurt, but don't do it constantly.



Done - Good Luck.
dude. i said some guy becasue i didnt know you name my bad was not meant to **** anyone off... holly ****. i never said i didnt belive you. i never said all you do is lie. i just wanted more people to clarrify it... sorry i pissed you off holly **** talk about a freak out.

AND AS FOR YOU SAYING THEY ALL HOLD 6!? IM TELLING YOU MINE ONLY HOLDS 5 and 1/4!!!! sure im sure they all hold six... BUT MINE ONLY HOLDS 5 and a 1/4!!!!!! y would i lie about what mine holds.

like i said i never said i didnt belive you!!!!
i said some guy cause i didnt remember your name.
was not meant to disrespect you in any way dude. sorry if it did.


your the only person who has ever told me that it is not good to keep them at max... that is why i asked some others...
sorry if i disrespected you was not meant to!!!



you said you know ware 6 quarts puts it on the stick... well im about to change my oil in the next few hundred miles... ill drive my happy *** ware ever you are to show you mine only takes 5 1/4!!!!

dont know why mine takes less then others... that is what im wondering.


and you also said they all hold 6 quarts... well im teling you mine dont.. y i have no clue.

ill say it one more time for the record

MINE ONLY HOLD 5 and a 1/4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Get the part number off your dipstick and make sure it's the right one.

I use Mobil 1 EP and a Mobil 1 filter. I run it anywhere from 8 to 10k between changes.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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No offense to you glc :o
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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You have something wrong if 5 1/4 quarts shows full on your stick. Either you have the wrong stick, the collar has slipped, or you have the wrong oil pan, or the pan is dented. Like I said, 6 quarts and a filter puts mine less than 1/2 way up the crosshatched area.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
You have something wrong if 5 1/4 quarts shows full on your stick. Either you have the wrong stick, the collar has slipped, or you have the wrong oil pan, or the pan is dented. Like I said, 6 quarts and a filter puts mine less than 1/2 way up the crosshatched area.
so do you think i should take it in and ask them what the problem is? because its the original oil pan. and there is no dents in it... all i can think is its the wrong dip stick... but... i dont know...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Uhhh, my dad has owned my truck since '97 and he puts in a little over 6.5 qts. And thats in the "normal" range of the dipstick.

So far we have 5-1/4, 6 and 6-3/4 readings here.... wtf?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Like I said - pull the dipstick and READ THE PART NUMBER off it and make sure the collar isn't slipping.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Like I said - pull the dipstick and READ THE PART NUMBER off it and make sure the collar isn't slipping.
just changed my oil last night...
these were the steps...
drained it...

took the old oil filter off

put the new one on

put 5 quarts in

looked at the stick made sure the collar was not loose or anything. (it wasnt)

after putting the 5 quarts in it was 1/4 of the way up in the safe zone. put the other 1/2 in and it is now at the top again.



i know you told me to not fill it full... but i have did these steps for about 60,000 miles now and change my oil every 3,000 faithfully and it has never givin me a problem so im just gunna keep doing it.


it is weird we all have diffrent readings... i wonder why that is?

i might call ford and ask why this might be
 

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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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The more oil you keep in your motor the longer it will stay clean for the less oil you have in your motor the less windage you have on your crankshaft. an exadgerated example in running in 4 feet of water vs running in a foot or water see what i mean i run mine half way because it takes a 4.4L jug and a 1L jug and its full its better to run it at half for that little extra power and if you burn a little bit from blow by you still have enough that you wont run below the Minumun level
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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You have to start the engine, run it for 30 seconds, shut it off, wait 5 minutes, and check it again. If you check it before you start it, it will read high because the filter is empty!

For the 3rd and last time - HAVE YOU READ THE PART NUMBER OFF THE STICK?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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My manual shows 6 quarts. I use 6 quarts.
 
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