How often to change synthetic
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Agreed. I ran Fram in everything I owned. When i got this truck, and used fram oil filter, it made a funny noise on start yp (dry start). Switched back over to Motorcraft, and no noise. Also have run wix filters with out any issue.
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I've run well over a million miles, cumaltive, on three different vehicles with nothing but Fram oil and air filters. NEVER a problem related to using them. Castrol dino oil, too.
I sure wish you guys would quit with the speculation wrt Fram filters. It gets old. And pure heresay.
I sure wish you guys would quit with the speculation wrt Fram filters. It gets old. And pure heresay.
Mine is simply not "heresay" but fact. I used Fram, made a noise on every start up (mine is not a daily driver, so sitting for a week is very common). It was a horrible noise. I had heard about the drain back valve issue. Figured it was BS, but it was time to swap anyway. Went with motorcraft filters. Noise never came back. Next, used a wix filter.... no noise. Then I used some crap brand oil filter (got from one of our parts suppliers) and the noise came back. Went back to motorcraft, again, no noise. I think this is far more then "chance". Take that however you wish.
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Have done my own independent test. Personal experience(over 30 years worth) trumps others "opinions". Even those of labworkers.
I'd say 435+ thousand miles on a truck that I still drive 22 years later is really all the proof I need. Never had the desire to cut open any filter. Unecessary mess.
Use what you want, though.
BTW, MT, not doubting ya. Not all Fram filters have the antidrainback valve. In some vehicles, it's not necessary. Choose the correct one.
Anyhoo, if the Motorcraft becomes more expensive than the correct style of Fram for my Ford, I'll switch it to Fram. But until then, it's Motorcraft for the Ford and Fram for my others.
I'd say 435+ thousand miles on a truck that I still drive 22 years later is really all the proof I need. Never had the desire to cut open any filter. Unecessary mess.
Use what you want, though.
BTW, MT, not doubting ya. Not all Fram filters have the antidrainback valve. In some vehicles, it's not necessary. Choose the correct one.
Anyhoo, if the Motorcraft becomes more expensive than the correct style of Fram for my Ford, I'll switch it to Fram. But until then, it's Motorcraft for the Ford and Fram for my others.
Last edited by jward; 10-28-2008 at 05:53 PM.
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Have done my own independent test. Personal experience(over 30 years worth) trumps others "opinions". Even those of labworkers.
I'd say 435+ thousand miles on a truck that I still drive 22 years later is really all the proof I need. Never had the desire to cut open any filter. Unecessary mess.
Use what you want, though.
BTW, MT, not doubting ya. Not all Fram filters have the antidrainback valve. In some vehicles, it's not necessary. Choose the correct one.
Anyhoo, if the Motorcraft becomes more expensive than the correct style of Fram for my Ford, I'll switch it to Fram. But until then, it's Motorcraft for the Ford and Fram for my others.
I'd say 435+ thousand miles on a truck that I still drive 22 years later is really all the proof I need. Never had the desire to cut open any filter. Unecessary mess.
Use what you want, though.
BTW, MT, not doubting ya. Not all Fram filters have the antidrainback valve. In some vehicles, it's not necessary. Choose the correct one.
Anyhoo, if the Motorcraft becomes more expensive than the correct style of Fram for my Ford, I'll switch it to Fram. But until then, it's Motorcraft for the Ford and Fram for my others.
Also, maybe its a newer engine design. I see your driving a '03. Mine is the 04 NBS. Could have something to do with it.
Like ya said, use what you want.
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That's what I use, and it goes 10k and still looks okay. I do use the Mobil 1 filter too. You can't really go by appearance though, just because it looks black doesn't necessarily mean it's shot.
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With an oil analysis, a lot/most people can run up to 10,000 miles between changes with Group III oil (Mobil 1, Platinum, Motorcraft Syn, ect.).