Should I drain the torque converter?

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Old May 25, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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Question Should I drain the torque converter?

I am readay to change the tranny fluid on my 4 speed auto. I would also like to drain the torque converter. Should I? The Chilton manual does not mention it. Is it worth doing or just leave it as is.
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Old May 25, 2001 | 02:47 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gah:
Put the transmission in N prior to turning the engine.
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Leave the transmission in P. You can still turn the engine just as easily and it is less likely to roll.
 
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Old May 25, 2001 | 03:53 PM
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I just installed a Transgo shift kit in my '95 Tbird SC last weekend. I also drained the TC so I was trying to turn the engine over in P but it seemed to be very hard. I put the trans in N and it was easy. Is there something going on that I don't know about, or is it all in my head ....

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Old May 25, 2001 | 06:06 PM
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If you washed your dog in the bathtub, would you drain half of the water and then top it off before you got in...

...or would you drain it all and fill the tub with new water before you got in?

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Old May 25, 2001 | 08:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gah:
I just installed a Transgo shift kit in my '95 Tbird SC last weekend. I also drained the TC so I was trying to turn the engine over in P but it seemed to be very hard. I put the trans in N and it was easy. Is there something going on that I don't know about, or is it all in my head ....
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It's all in your head

There is no reason why the engine would be any harder to turn in park than in neutral. In both cases the engine is not connected to the ouput shaft. The output shaft is held by the park gear and park pawl. But since in both park and nuetral the input and output shafts are not connected, there is no difference in how much force it takes to turn the engine.

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Old May 25, 2001 | 10:58 PM
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Drain it and feel lucky that it has a plug; not all cars do.

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Old May 26, 2001 | 12:54 AM
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Without a doubt you should drain the TC. It holds approx 7~8 quarts of ATF compared to 5 in the trans pan. It's very easy to drain. By far the easiest way to get the drain plug in the 6 o'clock position is to use a breaker bar and socket on the crank pulley nut. Put the transmission in N prior to turning the engine. If you want a divorce, have your wife crank the engine while you look for the drain plug!!!



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Old May 27, 2001 | 09:04 AM
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I know this may go against the grain of most of these posts, but here is my two cents, most from experience and research.

Transmissions will naturally get a buildup in them and transmission fluid is full of detergents to combat this. When you change ALL of the transmission fluid you are filling it full of detergent that may clean deposits that may clog your filter, servos, ports, etc. When you change only what is in the pan it freshens the old and is good till the next scheduled change, I think 30k.

If you are compelled to change all of the fluid, I would do it more often than what the book says - maybe every 10k.

If you change it when the book says, and only change what is in the pan, your transmission will last a LONG TIME. Probably longer than you want to own the truck.

MOST damaging is NOT changing the fluid on schedule and letting it go, say 70 - 100k and you then decide to change it ALL. Now all that detergent is having a field day cleaning all that buildup from neglect. Then within the next 10 - 30k miles it dies. Many people fall into this category. You are better off changing only what is in the pan. Overall your transmission life has been shortened because of the earlier neglect; however, If you change it ALL, you will kill it earlier than it has to.

This is something to think about. Good luck on your decisions.
 
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Old May 27, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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Old May 28, 2001 | 03:51 PM
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Yeah.......Rightttttt. (SIC)

Why don't we just siphon out a few quarts of oil from the engine and "refresh" the old oil that's left and extend engine life by leaving all the crud in there. Makes sense to me.

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