possible transmisson problem HELP
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possible transmisson problem HELP
Sorry guys i put this in another thread by mistake and meant to put it on this one so here it is.
OKay i took my truck in wensday morning for a power steering pump and what i thought was the ujoints which are covered under my ford extra care warranty. It stayed there all day wensday and they called me and told me that the ujoint were good and the clunking sound was a dried out slip yoke and that wasnt under warranty. So they charged my 80.00 to grease the slip yoke. They called me at 10 this morning and said the truck is ready. I paid them the 100.00 deductable and the 80 dollars for the grease. Drove the truck about 3 miles and the clunk noise is still there when it shifts from second to first coming to a stop. So i took it back within about 10 mins and left the truck with them. He calls me at 4:00 today and says there is NOTHING WRONG with the truck and it runs as good as it can. I told him he was full of BS and i wanted to take the technician for a ride. He said okay the service manager came out and we went for a drive. He wouldnt even let me drive my own truck for the test drive he drove it. Well it clunked twice and he told me he didnt hear anything. Finally the third time it was so loud he couldnt help but hear it. So at the end he has the nerve to ask me if i wanted to leave it there or just take it. I told him i am leaving it there so it will get fixed. He told me 6 times he has no idea what the noise could be. The truck does not do the clunking when in first gear and come to a stop. 2nd gear no clunk but when you put it in OD and come to a stop it does the clunking noise 9 times out of 10. He tried to suggest it could be a suspension component but he wasnt sure.Looks to me like it has something to do with the Transmission. Has anyone had this problem and how do i deal with this dealership. Secondly should i get the 80.00 back for the grease when that DID not fix the problem. I dont know where i stand but tomorrow will be 3 days and still havent figured it out.
OKay i took my truck in wensday morning for a power steering pump and what i thought was the ujoints which are covered under my ford extra care warranty. It stayed there all day wensday and they called me and told me that the ujoint were good and the clunking sound was a dried out slip yoke and that wasnt under warranty. So they charged my 80.00 to grease the slip yoke. They called me at 10 this morning and said the truck is ready. I paid them the 100.00 deductable and the 80 dollars for the grease. Drove the truck about 3 miles and the clunk noise is still there when it shifts from second to first coming to a stop. So i took it back within about 10 mins and left the truck with them. He calls me at 4:00 today and says there is NOTHING WRONG with the truck and it runs as good as it can. I told him he was full of BS and i wanted to take the technician for a ride. He said okay the service manager came out and we went for a drive. He wouldnt even let me drive my own truck for the test drive he drove it. Well it clunked twice and he told me he didnt hear anything. Finally the third time it was so loud he couldnt help but hear it. So at the end he has the nerve to ask me if i wanted to leave it there or just take it. I told him i am leaving it there so it will get fixed. He told me 6 times he has no idea what the noise could be. The truck does not do the clunking when in first gear and come to a stop. 2nd gear no clunk but when you put it in OD and come to a stop it does the clunking noise 9 times out of 10. He tried to suggest it could be a suspension component but he wasnt sure.Looks to me like it has something to do with the Transmission. Has anyone had this problem and how do i deal with this dealership. Secondly should i get the 80.00 back for the grease when that DID not fix the problem. I dont know where i stand but tomorrow will be 3 days and still havent figured it out.
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Sorry guys i put this in another thread by mistake and meant to put it on this one so here it is.
OKay i took my truck in wensday morning for a power steering pump and what i thought was the ujoints which are covered under my ford extra care warranty. It stayed there all day wensday and they called me and told me that the ujoint were good and the clunking sound was a dried out slip yoke and that wasnt under warranty. So they charged my 80.00 to grease the slip yoke. They called me at 10 this morning and said the truck is ready. I paid them the 100.00 deductable and the 80 dollars for the grease. Drove the truck about 3 miles and the clunk noise is still there when it shifts from second to first coming to a stop. So i took it back within about 10 mins and left the truck with them. He calls me at 4:00 today and says there is NOTHING WRONG with the truck and it runs as good as it can. I told him he was full of BS and i wanted to take the technician for a ride. He said okay the service manager came out and we went for a drive. He wouldnt even let me drive my own truck for the test drive he drove it. Well it clunked twice and he told me he didnt hear anything. Finally the third time it was so loud he couldnt help but hear it. So at the end he has the nerve to ask me if i wanted to leave it there or just take it. I told him i am leaving it there so it will get fixed. He told me 6 times he has no idea what the noise could be. The truck does not do the clunking when in first gear and come to a stop. 2nd gear no clunk but when you put it in OD and come to a stop it does the clunking noise 9 times out of 10. He tried to suggest it could be a suspension component but he wasnt sure.Looks to me like it has something to do with the Transmission. Has anyone had this problem and how do i deal with this dealership. Secondly should i get the 80.00 back for the grease when that DID not fix the problem. I dont know where i stand but tomorrow will be 3 days and still havent figured it out.
OKay i took my truck in wensday morning for a power steering pump and what i thought was the ujoints which are covered under my ford extra care warranty. It stayed there all day wensday and they called me and told me that the ujoint were good and the clunking sound was a dried out slip yoke and that wasnt under warranty. So they charged my 80.00 to grease the slip yoke. They called me at 10 this morning and said the truck is ready. I paid them the 100.00 deductable and the 80 dollars for the grease. Drove the truck about 3 miles and the clunk noise is still there when it shifts from second to first coming to a stop. So i took it back within about 10 mins and left the truck with them. He calls me at 4:00 today and says there is NOTHING WRONG with the truck and it runs as good as it can. I told him he was full of BS and i wanted to take the technician for a ride. He said okay the service manager came out and we went for a drive. He wouldnt even let me drive my own truck for the test drive he drove it. Well it clunked twice and he told me he didnt hear anything. Finally the third time it was so loud he couldnt help but hear it. So at the end he has the nerve to ask me if i wanted to leave it there or just take it. I told him i am leaving it there so it will get fixed. He told me 6 times he has no idea what the noise could be. The truck does not do the clunking when in first gear and come to a stop. 2nd gear no clunk but when you put it in OD and come to a stop it does the clunking noise 9 times out of 10. He tried to suggest it could be a suspension component but he wasnt sure.Looks to me like it has something to do with the Transmission. Has anyone had this problem and how do i deal with this dealership. Secondly should i get the 80.00 back for the grease when that DID not fix the problem. I dont know where i stand but tomorrow will be 3 days and still havent figured it out.
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If it's what I think it is then they aren't going to be able to fix that. I have seen this so often you just don't know. 2003 seems to be a magic year for this. A lot of vehicles from that year do it and I haven't seen an 04 do it yet. I have had everything from Mustangs to Crown Vics show up with this. The earliest vehicle I have seen with this problem is a 96 Town car.
We first noticed this problem with aftermarket tuning installed. As soon as any change at all was made to the tune that clunk would show up on vehicles that do it. Jerry, formerly of SCT looked over the files and couldn't find anything wrong. At one point we had half a dozen tuners and the staff of SCT looking for this issue.
Then it started showing up in untuned vehicles.
What we are seeing is a spike in the line pressure on the downshift. If this is your problem and you look at it with a data logger you will see the EPC being commanded to full pressure on that downshift.
Some modified vehicles can do this pretty violently.
This may not be your problem at all though. If it is then I don't know of a positive fix. I don't think Ford has a TSB on it and I don't know if a computer reflash from Ford with the newest calibration will correct it or not.
The good news is that it doesn't damage anything other than the drivers nerves.
Please let me know what you find out.
Darrin
We first noticed this problem with aftermarket tuning installed. As soon as any change at all was made to the tune that clunk would show up on vehicles that do it. Jerry, formerly of SCT looked over the files and couldn't find anything wrong. At one point we had half a dozen tuners and the staff of SCT looking for this issue.
Then it started showing up in untuned vehicles.
What we are seeing is a spike in the line pressure on the downshift. If this is your problem and you look at it with a data logger you will see the EPC being commanded to full pressure on that downshift.
Some modified vehicles can do this pretty violently.
This may not be your problem at all though. If it is then I don't know of a positive fix. I don't think Ford has a TSB on it and I don't know if a computer reflash from Ford with the newest calibration will correct it or not.
The good news is that it doesn't damage anything other than the drivers nerves.
Please let me know what you find out.
Darrin
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WELL get ready to laugh on this one. after the truck was in there all day today the called me and said that the problem was a loose body bolt. they replaced it and guess what no more clunking. They said that was a actually pretty common problem and ive drove it for the last 4 hours and it hasnt clunked yet!!!
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Yeah, that is a different problem. On the ones I have deal with I have replaced the valve body and even a whole transmission once. The problem I am talking about is entirely in the computer where is calls for a stupid line pressure for a split second on that downshift.
Glad that they got it fixed for you.
Darrin
Glad that they got it fixed for you.
Darrin
